FBI's Top Polygraph Examiner Reveals The Only 5 Lies That Exist
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He spent 22 years in the FBI. For over two decades of it, he decided whether people were telling the truth.
George Olivo became an FBI-certified polygraph examiner in 2012, and was later promoted to Senior Polygraph Examiner for the FBI's Los Angeles Division, managing the polygraph program for the second-largest office in the country. His colleagues called him the Gatekeeper.
In this conversation, he explains the only five lies that actually exist, why he treats every person in that chair like a hundred-dollar bill, and the exact moment — he calls it the point of surrender — where nearly every confession happens. He tells the story of a night in an abandoned house in Englewood that changed the course of his life. And near the end, he says something about the Casey Anthony case he's never said publicly before.
Since retiring from the Bureau, George has conducted polygraph examinations for A&E's Lie Detector series, including George and Cindy Anthony and Shannon Price, and appears regularly on FBI-focused podcasts including The Consult and FBI Case File Review. He now runs George Olivo & Associates, a private practice offering federally certified polygraph examinations in all fifty states.
Learn more or book a consultation: https://georgeolivo.com
He also runs Operation DREAM, a nonprofit providing food and support to orphans in Haiti and the Dominican Republic.
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This is a long one. Worth all of it.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 "how many innocent people have you called liars?"
02:05 Can I tell if you're lying right now?
04:20 The only five lies that exist
09:40 The house he grew up in
12:50 From the FBI to a small room with one chair
14:50 The Read
17:20 Inside the pre-test interview
24:10 Building rapport — treating people like a $100 bill
28:00 The mirror — a story that changed his life
34:00 The 10/80/10 rule and the point of surrender
39:30 The gatekeeper, corrected
42:00 Karina Sanchez — Harbor Division
54:00 Can you actually beat a polygraph?
1:01:30 What his critics get right
1:10:00 "In God we trust, everyone else we polygraph"
1:11:20 Operation Dream
1:19:40 The one he's still not sure about — and Casey Anthony
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