Today on Exploring the Marketplace, Shawn Bolz and Bob Hasson tackle a struggle many leaders, creatives, and believers quietly carry: striving for God instead of working with God.

This episode features guest Nathaniel Vossler, former CFO turned founder of Rhema Now, an app designed to help believers engage in listening prayer, group intensives, and Spirit-led coaching. In early 2025, Nathaniel stepped away from the corporate world after sensing God’s clear call into a new season—building this platform alongside his wife while raising their growing family in Idaho.

Together, Shawn, Bob, and Nathaniel get practical about:

• Moving from pressure to presence
• Saying no to good things that aren’t God things
• Creating Spirit-led rhythms for your calendar and decisions
• Hearing God clearly in real business and life transitions
• Letting go of ego, overcommitment, and burnout
• Building sustainably with God, not just for Him

Shawn and Bob also share personal stories of burnout, overextension, and the hard-earned wisdom that comes from learning to surrender control and trust God’s pace. This episode is an honest, hope-filled invitation to trade striving for peace—and rediscover what it looks like to walk in true partnership with the Holy Spirit.

If you’re tired, driven, successful—but longing for peace—this conversation is for you.

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Today on Exploring the Marketplace, Shawn Bolz and Bob Hasson dive into a conversation every entrepreneur and business leader faces at some point: what do you do when you hit the wall and everything says quit?

In this powerful episode, Shawn and Bob unpack the tension between calling, perseverance, and wisdom—sharing personal stories of long seasons, financial pressure, uncertainty, and learning when to push forward versus when to pivot. They explore how faith sustains leaders through cash-flow crises, industry volatility, and moments where giving up feels easier than pressing on.

The conversation features a compelling testimony from Steve Smithwick, founder and president of MasterWall Incorporated. After losing his job with four young children at home, Steve stepped out in radical obedience to build a business from the ground up with minimal resources but deep conviction. Through years of financial hardship, near-collapse moments, and divine provision, Steve learned to rely on God’s timing, voice, and faithfulness.

This episode covers:

• What it means to build a business when everything feels stacked against you
• How perseverance and faith work together in real-world leadership
• The importance of mentors, community, and godly counsel
• Why “hard pressed” doesn’t mean finished
• How God often forges purpose through pressure

If you’re facing a wall in your career, business, or calling, this episode offers courage, clarity, and hope. You may feel like you’re failing—but you could actually be forging forward.

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Today on Exploring the Marketplace, Shawn and Bob welcome back Victor Mena, an executive banker with over 30 years of experience and a reputation as a trusted advisor. Since his last appearance, Victor has walked through the collapse of the bank where he spent 28 years—losing a career, deferred compensation, and long-term security nearly overnight.

Victor shares how God sustained him and his family through loss, spiritual warfare, and uncertainty—and how faith, unity in marriage, generosity, and wise counsel helped lead him into a new season of leadership and influence.

This episode covers:

• What happens when a successful career suddenly ends
• Faith, identity, and stewardship during financial loss
• The biblical tension between debt, borrowing, and business growth
• Practical guardrails for using debt wisely in entrepreneurship
• Why unity, generosity, and peace are critical decision filters
• How God redeems loss and creates new opportunity through obedience

If you’re an entrepreneur, leader, banker, business owner—or navigating major financial or career decisions—this conversation will give you wisdom, courage, and perspective for the road ahead.

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