Eric is joined by special guest Rob Pelinka as they talk about the relationship between character and competence and the importance of perseverance in leadership.

Rob Pelinka is the President of Basketball Operations and General Manager of the Los Angeles Lakers. He gained prominence as a sports agent, representing top NBA talent, including Kobe Bryant, and founding the Landmark Sports Agency.

In this final episode, Eric and Kenton discuss the pleasant surprises, what has been meaningful to them and the church, and offer some final thoughts for those who engage in a succession process.

Leading through a succession provides leaders with a unique set of challenges for the successor such as honoring the past while creating desire for new directions, leading with your voice while not discounting the voice of the church and past, and loving the people while also charting a future course. 

In this episode, they discuss their relationship, how they have fostered a healthy relationship, rhythms for meeting, and agreements they hold.

Eric is joined by special guest Joel Klatt as they discuss the importance of being authentic, consistent, and credible as a leader.

Joel Klatt is the lead college football and NFL draft analyst for FOX Sports. He hosts The Joel Klatt Show podcast and is a former standout quarterback at the University of Colorado.

In this episode, Eric and Kenton discuss the major moments of announcement, the goals of each of those initial meetings with staff and with the church, and offer suggestions for leaders to think through the moment of the announcement.

Eric is joined by special guest Cheryl Bachelder, and they discuss how to live and lead with Christlike servanthood.

Cheryl Bachelder was the CEO of Popeyes during the turnaround years. She currently serves on the Board of Directors for Chick-fil-A and as a board member of WorkMatters, a ministry focused on helping Christian leaders discover the sacredness of their work. She also authored the leadership book Dare to Serve.

Eric is joined by special guest Ruben Mendoza to discuss what it means to lead with conviction.

Ruben Mendoza is the Founder, President, and Chief Executive Officer of Foundation Building Materials with 25 years of industry experience. Before founding the company in 2011, Ruben served as the Chief Executive Officer of AMS, a leading distributor of building products.