In Part 2 of this conversation, Lawrence Joss continues his dialogue with psychologist and Polyvagal Equine Institute founder Dr. Rebecca Bailey, exploring how equine therapy and everyday interactions with animals support nervous system regulation and healing in the context of parental alienation and family trauma. Drawing from decades of clinical work, Dr. Bailey shares powerful stories that show how horses mirror emotional states, challenge rigid narratives, and create moments of connection, humor, and perspective. Together, they highlight why healing doesn’t always come through talking, how safety and consent shape meaningful therapeutic work, and how parents can continue parenting, even without access, by focusing on regulation, connection, and inner stability.

Key Takeaways

• Equine therapy offers unique access points for emotional healing.
• Personal relationships with animals can enhance emotional regulation.
• Co-regulation is essential for emotional well-being and therapy.
• Horses can help individuals process trauma without delving into past experiences.
• Therapists must prioritize informed consent and safety in equine therapy.
• The evolution of equine therapy practices reflects changing societal needs.
• Reality clarification can help families understand their dynamics better.
• Co-regulation can occur between humans and horses, fostering emotional connection.
• Future equine therapy practices should focus on high standards and training.
• Therapists should empower clients to be experts in their own emotional regulation.

Chapters

00:00 - Introduction to Equine Therapy and Emotional Regulation
02:48 - Personal Experiences with Animals and Emotional Connection
05:47 - The Role of Horses in Therapy and Co-Regulation
08:58 - Understanding Trauma and the Therapeutic Process
11:53 - The Evolution of Equine Therapy Practices
14:53 - Co-Regulation and Its Importance in Therapy
17:47 - Anecdotes and Insights from Equine Therapy Sessions
20:52 - Future of Equine Therapy and Coaching
24:03 - Concluding Thoughts on Emotional Healing and Connection

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https://polyvagalequineinstitute.com

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This podcast is made possible by the Family Disappeared Team:
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