In this powerful follow-up conversation, Isaac reconnects with Jose (Ep. #55), a former undocumented immigrant who became a U.S. citizen through military service. Together, they dive deep into the heated debate surrounding immigration in America today. Jose shares raw and personal insights from his own journey, shedding light on the struggles undocumented immigrants face, the real impact of policy shifts, and how the current administration is shaping the future of immigration.

Beyond politics, this episode is about humanity—exploring the rights of undocumented individuals, the fight for a fairer system, and why awareness is key to creating real change. Whether you’re passionate about immigration reform or just want to hear an eye-opening story, this is an episode you won’t want to miss!

Jose has a podcast called "The ESL Sessions Podcast" check it out on Spotify and YouTube @ https://youtube.com/@ie.production_s?si=vaw3xSKmuO9LVwyC

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Intro and outro music made by Cassidine productions @ https://youtube.com/channel/UCPFmkKF_Kj1qebtArO3azLw?si=4XCSKHTTKAKxWML7

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