On the 46th episode of Enterprise AI Defenders, host Mike Britton (CIO, Abnormal AI) sits down with Ben Nelson (CISO, FICO). FICO is a 70-year-old analytics software company whose software powers real-time fraud detection across financial services. Ben covers chained low-severity vulnerabilities, pre-approved AI pathways, and why impersonation is harder to defend than data.

Quick Hits from Ben:

On governance: "we've curated a pretty robust library of pre-approved use cases for AI internally."

On impersonation: "I think the impersonation is a lot harder to defend because I can't control it."

On vulnerability chaining: "they can chain these things together, so a low is no longer a low."

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On the 45th episode of Enterprise AI Defenders, hosts Evan Reiser (CEO and co-founder, Abnormal AI) and Mike Britton (CIO, Abnormal AI) talk with Jeremy Koppen, EVP & Global CISO at Equifax. Equifax is one of the three major consumer credit bureaus and a global data, analytics, and identity-verification company that safeguards credit and identity information on hundreds of millions of consumers and businesses worldwide. Jeremy explains how an agentic AI system now closes roughly 50% of his SOC's tickets, why Equifax removed passwords for employees, and how bringing security into product design early has become a defensive advantage.

Quick Hits from Jeremy:

On building security in early: "adding in those security features is much easier at that phase than trying to bolt them on later"

On removing root causes: "we've deployed passwordless to employees"

On the autonomous SOC: "it is closing approximately 50% of our tickets"

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Enterprise AI Defenders is a show where top security executives share specific ways AI changes the threat landscape and the defenses that hold up in real environments.

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Enterprise AI Defenders is produced by Abnormal Studios.

On the 44th episode of Enterprise AI Defenders, hosts Evan Reiser (CEO and co-founder, Abnormal AI) and Mike Britton (CIO, Abnormal AI) talk with Yusuf Ezzy, Chief Information Security Officer at Pacific Gas and Electric (PG&E). PG&E is the largest electric and natural gas provider in California, serving about 16 million customers. Yusuf explains why defending critical infrastructure now demands machine-on-machine operations, how AI governance has to keep pace with the business to survive, and why an expanding grid attack surface means his team no longer owns the whole surface it has to protect.

Quick Hits from Yusuf:

On the future of defense: "It's no longer about humans against machines. You're going to lose that fight every single time. It's got to be machine on machine."

On AI governance: "If you don't operate at the pace of the business, it's not going to work."

On the expanding grid attack surface: "The attack surface is increasing, and we don't own the entire surface anymore."

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Enterprise AI Defenders is a show where top security executives share specific ways AI changes the threat landscape and the defenses that hold up in real environments.

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Enterprise AI Defenders is produced by Abnormal Studios.