I consider this conversation to be a great companion episode to the previous one about disaster complexity and complex adaptive systems. Fitting the theme of emergent states, this conversation with Space Force Systems Engineer, Carl “C.J.” Unis, is about how emergency managers can (and should) consider the cascading impacts from unique disaster interactions way before the incident begins to scale.

Carl “C.J.” Unis is a systems engineer with the United States Space Force. He leverages his operations expertise in DOD, enterprise security, homeland security, and national security experiences to support mission critical objectives.

His role emphasizes technical systems analysis, systems engineering, integration, and mission assurance to advance national security objectives. His professional journey includes roles in logistics, special operations, incident response, embassy security, critical infrastructure protection and analysis, systems analysis, supply chain resilience, and systems engineering.

He delivers innovative and secure solutions, collaborating across governmental, private, and public sectors, ensuring operational effectiveness and execution. He brings a structured approach to complex systems challenges and a dedication to safeguarding vital assets. He is an internationally recognized expert in his field, and is regularly sought out for his insight, knowledge, and expertise.

Systems Thinking: Skills and Insights to Resolve Wicked Problems

Crisis Lab Course: Systems Thinking in Emergency Management

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