In this episode, Elisha brings a rich inquiry to the table: Is radicalization pulling us closer to presence—or pulling us away from it? What unfolds is a layered, honest, sometimes fiery unraveling of what it means to respond to a world in chaos without losing your humanity, sensitivity, or grounding.

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Elizabeth and Elisha explore:

• What "radicalization" really means, who gets to define it, and how perception shapes it
• Whether radical responses require desensitization—and what that costs us
• The tension between activism rooted in devotion vs. activism rooted in reactivity
• How to meet violence, injustice, and extremism without collapsing into numbness or mimicry
• The difference between extremism and taking extreme measures
• How embodiment, values, and lived experience shape our ability to respond
• Presence as a practice, not a performance
• The messy, necessary work of analysis (not bypass, not performance, not certainty)
• Why shaming, gatekeeping, and performative leadership weaken movements
• The spiritual, ancestral, and practical realities of living through this political moment
• What it means to stay human, stay sensitive, and stay accountable when the world feels unhinged

This one is raw, reflective, and grounded in the real-time process of two women wrestling with how to stay awake without burning out, how to stay loving without being naïve, and how to stay present without losing the edge required to protect what's sacred.

If you've been feeling the pressure, the polarization, or the confusion of this moment—pull up a chair. This conversation meets you right where you're at.

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Elizabeth DiAlto

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Elisha Tichelle

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