Is AI the ultimate tool for humanity—or its greatest security threat?

In this episode of Let’s Talk Shop, host Elias Khnaser sits down with cybersecurity expert Patrick Hevesi to explore the chilling reality of Dark AI. Patrick, a former Gartner colleague and the visionary behind Cybersecurity Mesh Architecture, reveals how easily "Dark AI" models are being built and weaponized on the dark web today.

In this episode, we discuss:

► What is Dark AI? Why hackers are stripping away guardrails to create LLMs focused on chaos.
► The 15-Minute Cyberattack: Patrick explains how a standard $2,000 gaming rig can be used to run a boundary-less AI model.
► The "Chess Game" of Cyberwarfare: How rogue nations use AI to probe for vulnerabilities across major cloud providers like AWS, Google, and Microsoft.
► Patrick’s Next Move: A sneak peek into his transition from Gartner to his new stealth startup.

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