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In this episode, Amas Tenumah and Bob Furniss explore the rapidly evolving world of AI, chatbots, and their implications for contact centers. They discuss real-world experiments with AI agents, the future of customer service, and how businesses can prepare for a world where bots may replace human agents.

key topics

AI and chatbots in contact centers

Real-world AI experiments with Muse

Implications of AI replacing human agents

Customer experience in a bot-driven world

Business strategies for AI adoption

Email was supposed to make customer service cheaper.

It didn’t.

It was supposed to make it more efficient.

It didn’t.

Instead, we built a channel where customers write essays explaining their problems, wait hours or days for a response, answer a follow-up question, wait again, and somehow call this progress.

Maybe it’s time to kill customer service email.

This week on The Contact Center Show, Bob and I get into that argument, plus:

Salesforce getting very serious about the contact center.

Why digital workforce management may finally be moving beyond forcing phone-era math onto email and chat.

Why the back office might be a better place to spend your next technology dollar than another chatbot.

And why the contact center technology market has become one giant game of Hungry Hungry Hippos where every vendor suddenly claims to do everything.

Also, naturally, we end by discussing whether AI is going to kill us all.

A normal episode.

#CustomerService #ContactCenter #CX #AI #Dreamforce

This episode cuts through the gap between what executives are saying about AI and what is actually happening inside contact centers. Companies are reporting major efficiency gains, yet contact volume and contact-center employment haven’t collapsed. Amas and Bob unpack the contradiction: pent-up customer demand, harder calls reaching humans, rising handle times, and ROI stories that are far more complicated than “AI saved us 30%.”

They also tackle the growing anxiety workers—particularly younger workers—have about AI taking their jobs. Their argument isn’t that AI won’t transform the industry. It will. The advantage increasingly belongs to people who understand what the technology can do, what it cannot do, and where human judgment still matters.

Then the conversation turns to Dreamforce and Salesforce’s AI future. If the interface increasingly becomes an AI assistant sitting in front of Salesforce, does Salesforce risk moving from the center of the user experience to infrastructure running quietly in the background? Bob adds an important Dreamforce reality check: what gets announced on stage can still be nine to twelve months away from becoming something customers can actually use.

In this episode: AI efficiency versus actual headcount; why better service can create more demand rather than less; the hidden customer demand traditional contact-center metrics miss; what leaders should tell employees worried about AI; why judgment may become more valuable as automation improves; Salesforce, Claude and the rise of “headless” enterprise software; and why you shouldn’t confuse a Dreamforce announcement with a deployable product.

The central question: If AI really is making the contact center dramatically more efficient, why aren’t there dramatically fewer humans working in it?