This episode centers on collaboration, not as a creative ideal, but as a practical structure shaped by roles, labor, expectations, and authorship.

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The conversation moves through questions of hierarchy, responsibility, and ownership: who initiates a project, who maintains it, and how uneven labor or unclear roles generate tension over time. Rather than framing collaboration as inherently positive, the discussion treats it as a system that requires planning, boundaries, and explicit agreements in order to remain sustainable.

Topics addressed include:

The difference between participation, contribution, and authorship

Why unclear roles produce ego conflicts and resentment

Collaboration between artists versus collaboration with brands or institutions

Planning, metrics, and structure as forms of care rather than control

Success defined as skill development and continuity, not visibility or scale

The episode also reflects on why many artists prefer working alone, and why collaboration in visual art often fails where other disciplines (such as music) have clearer hierarchies and conventions. This is not a guide to collaboration, but a record of thinking through its limits in real time.

📍 Recorded in Berlin

🎙️ Long-form conversation, minimally edited