This episode continues the conversation about Chris and focuses on the day everything changed.
Vit shares what she can about the day Chris died, how it unfolded, and what it was like to begin grieving in real time. With care and intention, Jen helps guide the conversation through shock, loss, and the moments that stay with you.
This episode is raw, honest, and heavy — and it’s shared to honor truth, grief, and the reality of loss.
This is Part 2 of a two-part conversation.

The Therapist & The Wildcard is a mental health podcast hosted by The Wildcard, alongside The Therapist, where real conversations meet professional insight—and nothing is off-limits. Together, they dive into therapy, grief, healing, relationships, emotional chaos, and the moments that make you laugh, cry, or ask, “Is this normal?”
Some episodes go deep. Some go sideways. Most do both.
The Wildcard brings the unfiltered conversation, lived experience, and humor people are usually afraid to say out loud, while The Therapist grounds the conversation with clinical knowledge, compassion, and perspective—without killing the vibe.
This podcast isn’t about having it all figured out. It’s about talking through the mess, naming the hard stuff, and finding meaning (and humor) along the way.
If you’ve ever laughed through pain, questioned your own reactions, or wanted therapy talk without the therapy voice—welcome. You’re in the right place.

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61581431292635
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thetherapistandthewildcard
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thetherapistnthewildcard