Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's episode Duet. We are joined by Chris’s wife, Lela. Topics include the difficulty of caring about the characters in this first season, the Federation's role as peace officers, the nature of prejudice, collective guilt, and breaking the cycle of revenge through forgiveness.

Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's episode Dramatis Personae. We are joined by Nash Family Bacon's very own Mike Nash. Topics include DS9's first season's obsession with high concepts, the meaning of building a clock, having the shields on by default, and blazing our names across the stars.

Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's episode The Forsaken. Topics include the personality of artificial intelligence, showing vulnerability, whether anyone can make a show like The Next Generation nowadays, and the different ways to make a personal connection.

Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's episode If Wishes Were Horses. Topics include baseball (yes, Chris talks about a sport), the cognitive nature of fantasization, how each person’s fantasies differentiate, the dangers of living within an imagined reality, and, oh yeah, we talk about this DS9 episode.

Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's episode Progress. Topics include Rom's salary, individual rights versus collective prosperity, Kira's character progression, whether holodeck bullets are lethal, and self-sealing stem bolts.

Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's episode The Storyteller. We are joined again by our bacon merchant friend, Mike. Topics include Bashir's new love interest, DS9's contradictory relationship with humanism, imposter syndrome, old men shouting at clouds, and The City on the Edge of Forever.

Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's episode Battle Lines. This episode we are once again joined by our long time friend Cody. Topics include retributive justice, post-traumatic stress disorder, the power of forgiveness in ending cycles of hatred, and differential magnetomers.

Chris and Matt Talk About That. "That" being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine's episode Vortex. Topics include Deep Space Nine being so different than other Star Trek shows, Odo's bizarre biological nature, Colm Meaney's film The Snapper, and skipping Neelix scenes.