In this episode of Character Study, Jon Fortt and David Tieche turn to one of the most unsettling passages in the Bible: Genesis 22 and the binding of Isaac. While Isaac is often treated as a secondary figure in Abraham’s story, the conversation insists he cannot be ignored. This is a narrative that provokes fear, moral revulsion and deep questions about the character of God – and the hosts resist the temptation to sanitize it.

The episode opens by situating Genesis 22 as one of the most depicted biblical scenes in art and literature because of its raw human tension. God’s command to Abraham to sacrifice “your son, your only son, whom you love” is explored not just as a theological puzzle, but as a story meant to produce horror. Drawing on thinkers like Kierkegaard, the hosts emphasize that the text intentionally destabilizes the reader. If misunderstood, it can make God appear monstrous. That reaction, they argue, is part of the text’s power.

Fortt and Tieche carefully walk through the spare, relentless economy of the biblical narrative: Abraham’s silence, Isaac carrying the wood, the climb up the mountain, and the knife raised before divine intervention. They dwell on what the text does not say – especially Isaac’s inner life. How old was he? Did he trust God, or did he simply trust his father? And what does this near-sacrifice do to a son who survives such a betrayal?

A major theme is that this story tests more than Abraham. It tests God in the reader’s eyes. The hosts wrestle openly with the ethical implications, especially in light of real-world tragedies where people claim God told them to harm their children. They also explore Abraham’s earlier willingness to argue with God over Sodom, contrasted with his silence here. It's a silence that deepens the story’s terror.

The discussion then broadens to generational consequences. What if Isaac never told Sarah? What if the trauma lingered, unspoken, shaping future family dysfunction? The hosts suggest that unresolved moral and emotional fractures often echo through generations, even when faith persists.

The episode ultimately turns toward meaning rather than resolution. Abraham’s cryptic words: “we will come back,” and the New Testament reflection in Hebrews suggest Abraham trusted God as one who brings life from death. Still, the hosts stress that this does not make the story emotionally easier.

Finally, the episode frames Genesis 22 as a prophetic reenactment pointing forward. Isaac and Jesus both carry wood up a hill; both are beloved “only sons.” But in the end, Isaac is spared, while God does not spare His own Son. The ram in the thicket becomes the central revelation: the Lord will provide. The story, they conclude, is not only about radical faith, but also about a God who ultimately bears the cost Himself.

In this episode of Character Study, Jon Fortt and David Tieche explore Genesis 19—the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah—by focusing less on spectacle and more on character, moral drift, and spiritual consequence. Jon frames the chapter as a biblical horror story: temptation, warning signs ignored, catastrophic judgment, and the unsettling truth that escape alone does not guarantee safety. The central figure becomes Lot’s wife, whose single backward glance reveals an inward allegiance that never fully left Sodom.

The discussion traces how Lot’s decline began long before the fire fell. His choice to prioritize fertile land and comfort over closeness to God placed his family inside a culture defined by exploitation and coercion. David emphasizes the biblical distinction between righteousness and wickedness: righteousness uses one’s power to help others, while wickedness takes from others to benefit oneself. Sodom represents a society organized around taking—especially through sexual violence and the removal of consent.

Abraham stands as a counterexample. His negotiation with God over the fate of the city is not an attempt to change God’s mind, but a revelation of God’s heart. The search for ten righteous people introduces a key theme: a small number of faithful individuals can preserve an entire community. The tragedy of Sodom is not merely its corruption, but the absence of even a minimal faithful presence.

Lot’s wife embodies divided loyalty. Though physically rescued, she looks back, signaling attachment to the very life God is judging. Jon and David connect this to broader biblical patterns—Israel longing for Egypt, Noah's family carrying sin beyond the flood, and humanity’s tendency to flee consequences without surrendering desire.

The horror deepens after the escape. Lot hesitates, bargains with angels, and resists full trust in God. His family’s moral infection resurfaces in the cave episode with his daughters, showing that corruption can survive even after judgment if it has taken root in the heart.

The episode closes with a challenge to the listener. Genesis 19 is not only about ancient judgment, but present choice. Will we be like Abraham—faithful, interceding, and aligned with God’s purposes—or like Lot’s wife, outwardly saved but inwardly turned back? The warning is clear: leaving a place is not the same as leaving its values behind.

In this episode, Jon and David continue their examination of Lot by contrasting his character with Abraham’s and focusing on Genesis 18–19, the events leading to the destruction of Sodom. Lot is presented not as a clear villain, but as a deeply compromised figure—someone who recognizes God and practices religious gestures, yet is shaped far more by the culture he chose than by the God he claims to honor.

The discussion opens with Genesis 18, where God appears physically to Abraham with two angels. Abraham’s response—humble posture, lavish hospitality, and attentiveness—reveals what biblical righteousness looks like in practice. God then decides to include Abraham in the decision-making process about Sodom, explaining that Abraham has been chosen to walk in justice (mishpat) and righteousness (tsedeq): loving what is right and actively setting things right when they are broken. These qualities, David explains, reflect God’s own character and explain why Abraham is invited “into the room where it happens.”

This moment is immediately contrasted with Sodom, whose “outcry” has reached God—a term associated in Scripture with violent oppression and abuse of the vulnerable. God’s choice to investigate personally highlights that judgment is not impulsive or arbitrary, but morally grounded. Jon notes the tension in the story: God pauses for hospitality and conversation before confronting catastrophic injustice, raising questions about divine patience and God’s decision to work through human partnership rather than immediate intervention.

Abraham’s intercession for Sodom becomes central. He repeatedly appeals to God’s justice, asking whether the city might be spared for the sake of righteous people, bargaining the number down from fifty to ten. Rather than resisting, God agrees at every step. The point is not negotiation skill but shared concern—Abraham is being shaped to reflect God’s mercy even toward a corrupt society.

The focus then shifts to Lot in Genesis 19. Unlike Abraham, Lot is seated at the city gate, suggesting civic power and social integration. He recognizes the angels immediately and urges them into his home, mirroring Abraham’s hospitality. But when the men of Sodom surround the house and demand to sexually assault the visitors, the city’s total moral collapse is revealed. The threat is communal, violent, and indiscriminate.

Lot’s response exposes his deepest failure. Instead of resisting or defending the vulnerable, he offers his daughters to the mob as a bargaining chip. This horrifying decision shows how thoroughly Sodom’s values have distorted him. Though Lot knows God and performs religious gestures, he lacks Abraham’s courage, preparation, and willingness to sacrifice himself for others. He tries to negotiate with evil rather than confront it.

Jon argues that Lot represents many modern believers: people who recognize God, welcome Him selectively, and attempt to coexist with corrupt systems while believing they can manage the compromise. Only when God’s presence becomes unavoidable does Lot’s situation explode into crisis. The episode closes by framing Lot as a tragic figure—rescued not because of his righteousness, but through unmerited grace—setting up the next episode as an “exodus before the Exodus,” where salvation comes, but at devastating cost.

In this special Advent edition of Character Study, Jon Fortt and David Tieche pause their Abraham series to reflect on Luke 2 and two often-overlooked figures surrounding Jesus’ infancy: Simeon and Anna. Coming after a discussion of Herod, the episode intentionally contrasts worldly power with quiet faithfulness.

The conversation centers on how Simeon and Anna are, by all conventional measures, “nobodies:” elderly, powerless and historically insignificant. Yet they are seen by God. Simeon, described as righteous and devout, has waited his entire life for the “consolation of Israel.” Guided by the Holy Spirit, he recognizes the infant Jesus as the Messiah and declares himself ready to die in peace, having finally seen God’s salvation. His response stands in sharp contrast to Herod’s fear-driven violence: Simeon welcomes the Christ even though it marks the end of his own life.

Simeon’s prophecy carries both joy and darkness. While proclaiming Jesus as a light to the Gentiles and the glory of Israel, he also foretells division, opposition, and suffering—including a warning to Mary that a sword will pierce her own soul. Jon and Dave reflect on how Christmas is not merely sentimental but represents Jesus “landing in occupied territory” — a spiritual invasion that forces a response, causing some hearts to rise toward God and others to harden against Him.

The episode then turns to Anna, an elderly prophetess who has spent decades fasting, praying, and worshiping in the temple. Though widowed early and living through national decline and oppression, Anna remains anchored in hope. When she sees Jesus, she immediately gives thanks and tells others who are longing for Israel’s redemption. Dave highlights Anna as a model of perseverance: disappointment does not push her away from God but deeper into prayer, scripture, and prophetic imagination.

Together, Simeon and Anna embody faithful waiting. Their lives testify that God’s promises unfold on His timetable, not ours, and that quiet devotion can carry eternal significance. The episode closes by framing their stories as guides for Advent—an invitation to make space for Christ in hearts already crowded by fear, power, and distraction.

This special episode of Character Study marks a first for the podcast, as Jon Fortt and David Tieche welcome their inaugural guest: Dr. Carlos Campo, CEO of the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C. Campo, who has led the museum for about a year and a half after previously serving on its board, describes his role not as a career move but as a calling. After decades as a university president and Christian academic leader, he and his wife discerned that the museum’s mission—to illuminate the Bible’s narrative, history, and global influence—aligned deeply with their convictions.Campo explains that the Museum of the Bible is far more than a collection of ancient texts. It is built around three pillars: Narrative, which immerses visitors in the biblical story; History, which explores archaeology and textual transmission; and Impact, which traces the Bible’s influence on art, music, science, philanthropy, and American history. The museum combines rare artifacts—some of the oldest biblical manuscripts in existence—with immersive experiences such as walking through the Red Sea or encountering the burning bush. These environments are designed not just to inform but to inspire awe and emotional connection.A central theme of the conversation is the museum’s posture toward belief. Campo is explicit: the institution is nonsectarian, apolitical, and non-proselytizing. Its mission begins with the phrase “We invite all people.” Rather than instructing visitors what to believe, the museum presents the Bible openly—its beauty, influence, and complexity—allowing individuals to draw their own conclusions. This includes confronting difficult chapters, such as the Bible’s misuse in slavery or political oppression, through exhibits like the Slave Bible.The discussion turns to the Dead Sea Scrolls, whose discovery confirmed the remarkable accuracy of biblical transmission across centuries. Campo describes the rarity of displaying authentic scroll fragments and related artifacts, including the Magdala Stone and ancient Jerusalem road pavers associated with Jesus. These physical encounters, he argues, offer something digital access alone cannot replicate.Jon and Dave explore how technology, faith, and modern life intersect, noting that many people today are not hostile to the Bible but unfamiliar with it. Both observe a growing spiritual curiosity—especially among younger generations—driven by dissatisfaction with shallow digital culture and a hunger for meaning.The episode closes on a personal note as Campo names Daniel as his favorite biblical figure, praising his ability to engage culture without compromise. The conversation ends with gratitude, reflection, and a shared hope that Scripture can still speak powerfully into modern life.

Jon and Dave continue their Advent conversation in anticipation of the birth of Jesus. In Episode 7 of Character Study, journalist Jon Fortt and pastor David Tieche unpack the historical facts and Biblical details about Herod, his interactions with the magi, relationship with the Roman Empire, and significance as a political figure.

Jon and Dave continue their Advent conversation in anticipation of the birth of Jesus. For Episode 6 of Character Study, journalist Jon Fortt and pastor David Tieche explore the story of Zacharias, father of John the Baptist, and how he responded to the miraculous news that a baby was on the way.

Dave and Jon take a break from the Abraham cycle in the podcast to begin reflecting on the Christmas moment in scripture. In Episode 5 of Character Study, journalist Jon Fortt and pastor David Tieche look at how different audiences react to the news of the savior's arrival, and what we can learn from them.