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Centering: The Asian American Christian Podcast

Centering: The Asian American Christian Podcast

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Centering is the Asian American Christian Podcast: conversations on Christ, the Christian life, and Asian American perspectives. Through our podcast seasons, as well as specially presented content, we dive into the reality and beauty of living out Asian American Christian faith. Centering is a production of the Center for Asian American Theology and Ministry at Fuller Theological Seminary.All rights reserved Spiritualità
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  • Mental Health, Women Leaders, and a 40-Year Legacy: A Conversation with Eleanor Huang

    Mental Health, Women Leaders, and a 40-Year Legacy: A Conversation with Eleanor Huang
    Oct 12 2026
    In this bonus episode of Centering: the Asian American Christian Podcast, Daniel Lee continues the micro-series on the AAC’s 10th anniversary with guest co-host Jessica ChenFeng (director of the Asian American Well-being Collaboratory, and Associate Professor of Marriage and Family Therapy at Fuller Seminary). They sit down with Eleanor Huang, retired licensed clinical social worker and co-founder of the Asian American Christian Counseling Service (AACCS), and recipient of our Community Catalyst Award at our 10th anniversary gala for her work in mental health. For over four decades, AACCS worked to destigmatize mental health counseling and psychotherapy in the Asian American Christian community. Eleanor guided it from a 1979 gathering in her Silver Lake living room through its incorporation in 1986, its 2016 acquisition by New Dawn Christian Family Services, and its closure in 2020. Jessica, who served on the AACCS board as a doctoral student, invited Eleanor to share the story behind the work, and the woman behind it. In this conversation, Eleanor discusses: How a small group of Christian mental health practitioners at Evergreen Baptist Church discovered one another and became the Paramythians, a name rooted in the biblical Greek word for comfort Why Asian American Christian mental health did not begin with millennials, and what it looked like for clinicians in the 1970s to be told to leave faith out of the therapy room Her path from UCLA in the late 1960s and '70s, through the Asian American Studies Center and affirmative action in social work education, to her own MSW The personal wound of being asked to leave a campus fellowship, and how it shaped her conviction that wounded Christians needed a place of care How AACC's four-part mission unfolded: direct counseling at accessible fees, church education, pastoral consultation, and building the pipeline of future Asian American clinicians The reality behind the organization: part-time therapists, volunteer leadership, and a community that kept asking whether God wanted it to continue What it meant to grow from working quietly in the background to leading visibly as a woman, including late-night grant writing in the era of typewriters and thermal fax machines Eleanor's story is a reminder for any young therapist or pastor who feels alone in this work: others have walked this road before, and their legacy is here for us to learn from. Sign up to receive more updates from the AAC: aac.fuller.edu/newsletter/ If you appreciate the work we do at the Asian American Center at Fuller Seminary, please consider supporting us! Your monetary support sustains our vital work and expands Asian American research, leadership development, and pastoral formation for the Church in the year ahead. Donate here: fuller.edu/giveaac. Learn more about the AAC's 10-year history: https://aac.fuller.edu/10-year-anniversary/
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    47 min
  • Frodo, Grace, and the Founding of a Center: A Conversation with Daniel Lee

    Frodo, Grace, and the Founding of a Center: A Conversation with Daniel Lee
    Aug 28 2026
    To close out our 10th anniversary micro-series, we flip the format: Yulee interviews Daniel about his own journey to founding the Asian American Center at Fuller Seminary. It’s a more personal episode than usual, tracing the family history, faith formation, and institutional battles that shaped both Daniel and the Center itself. Daniel’s upbringing in a Korean American church in Northern Virginia, and how growing up alongside non-Korean Asian American friends—while navigating an abusive father—shaped his early pull toward a broader Asian American identity His campus ministry years as “Grace Man,” and the pushback he got for it Going to Princeton to study Karl Barth and, for a time, trying to leave Asian American ministry behind entirely in pursuit of becoming “a legitimate theologian” The unraveling of that plan: unresolved family patterns, disillusionment with Tim Keller’s Redeemer model, and a friend’s blunt observation—”all you do is talk about Asian American stuff”—that brought him back Arriving at Fuller, starting the Asian American Theological Fellowship as a lone ThM student, and the years of institutional confusion that followed (mistaken-identity emails, “what language will you teach it in?”) The financial and political cost of building the Center—years on food stamps, a breakdown in an empty office, HR complaints, and resistance from unexpected places, including fellow Asian Americans The founding commitment to a truly pan-Asian American Center—not a “wink-wink” Korean or East Asian program—built around Asian heritage, migration experience, American culture, and racialization Where the Center is headed next: the Filipino American Ministry Initiative, the Korean American Ministry Initiative, South Asian American work, and the shift from research toward resourcing This one’s a little different—less history lecture, more origin story. Thanks for listening, and thanks for walking this whole micro-series with us. We’ll see you at the 10th anniversary celebration this October. Sign up to receive more updates from the AAC: aac.fuller.edu/newsletter/ If you appreciate the work we do at the Asian American Center at Fuller Seminary, please consider supporting us! Your monetary support sustains our vital work and expands Asian American research, leadership development, and pastoral formation for the Church in the year ahead. Donate here: fuller.edu/giveaac. For information about our 10th anniversary gala, visit tinyurl.com/10yearsaac
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    53 min
  • Faith Imagination and the Fight to Belong: A Conversation with Ken Fong

    Faith Imagination and the Fight to Belong: A Conversation with Ken Fong
    Aug 18 2026
    This episode continues our 10th anniversary micro-series with a conversation featuring Dr. Ken Fong—longtime pastor of Evergreen Baptist Church of Los Angeles, former national Asian American ministry leader, and Daniel's predecessor as Executive Director of Fuller's Asian American Initiative. Ken and Daniel trace the decades-long, often invisible labor behind the Asian American Center's history, from Fuller's earliest Asian American ministries class to the founding of the Center itself. Ken's path to Fuller in 1978, and the wave of Japanese American and Chinese American students who shaped the seminary's Asian American presence in that era Why Japanese American churches—shaped by the incarceration camps and shifting generational leadership—became, in Ken's words, a reluctant "vanguard" of pan-Asian ministry Evergreen Baptist's decision to hire its first Chinese American associate pastor, and Ken's framing of the church as evolving from a "Japanese restaurant" to a fusion menu still cooked by Asian American chefs Ken's early clashes over "new wineskins" for American-born Chinese ministry, and the "30 years too soon" conversation that followed The founding and dissolution of Fuller's earlier Asian American Initiative—including the racism Ken and Daniel encountered while trying to institutionalize the program, and why Ken ultimately stepped down so the Center could be funded Ken and Daniel's reflections on the emotional toll of that transition, and what it meant to rebuild afterward Why Asian American women students were consistently among the strongest in Ken's classes—and how few went on into full-time ministry Ken's shift over time from megachurch ambitions to a more communal, formation-centered vision of Asian American church This one runs long on institutional history, but it's essential context for understanding what the Center stands on. Thanks for listening! Sign up to receive more updates from the AAC: https://aac.fuller.edu/newsletter/ If you appreciate the work we do at the Asian American Center at Fuller Seminary, please consider supporting us! Your monetary support sustains our vital work and expands Asian American research, leadership development, and pastoral formation for the Church in the year ahead. Donate here: fuller.edu/giveaac. For information about our 10th anniversary gala, visit tinyurl.com/10yearsaac
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    1 ora e 7 min
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