Episode #265:

Tetiana Gorbunova, Chief Sales Officer at Jooble, explains why quota-driven bonuses can sabotage ABM by pushing sellers to chase late-stage deals and pressure prospects. She shares how her team removed the bonus system and replaced it with KPIs, development plans, and structured performance reviews. She explains how this shift reduced desperate outreach, improved nurturing, and increased knowledge sharing across the team. She also describes why the result was stronger revenue, better team morale, and faster skill growth.

“We just canceled the bonus system. Now, we have KPIs and personal development plans with personal goals for each salesperson and each customer success. We conduct performance and salary reviews once a year. We have, on a regular basis, monthly reviews where everyone brings some successful or unsuccessful cases with the customers, and it really helps to grow the whole team.” - Tetiana Gorbunova

Tetiana highlights how quota incentives can create internal competition, rushed outreach, and poor early-stage nurturing. She recommends replacing bonus pressure with clear KPIs, coaching plans, and consistent performance reviews so teams collaborate, share what works, and stay engaged with prospects until timing is right, improving both revenue outcomes and team capability.

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Episode #264:

Tetiana Gorbunova, Chief Sales Officer at Jooble, introduces her sales leadership journey across multiple roles and transformations. She shares how leading more than 40 sales professionals requires focus, structure, and a clear team direction. She explains what it takes to operate across six countries while staying consistent in execution. She sets up the episode focus on what is changing in B2B sales and how leaders should respond.

“Today, the level of certainty is gone. Instead of building rigid, linear plans, we now have to plan aggressively, but with built-in flexibility and lots of chip points and metrics because, as a C-level, it's our core responsibility to operate in uncertainty.” - Tetiana Gorbunova

Tetiana highlights how volatility, attention overload, and faster buying shifts are changing how teams win new customers. She recommends building flexible plans with clear checkpoints, running short tests to learn fast, and using real customer dialogue to stay relevant. She also explains why ICP clarity and saying no protect focus, delivery, and revenue.

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Episode #263:

Mark Greenaway, former Chief Revenue Officer at Crownpeak, explains why opportunity itself can become the biggest barrier to scaling revenue. He shares how spreading go-to-market teams too thin weakens execution, increases customer acquisition costs, and reduces long-term growth potential. Mark discusses how disciplined focus, cross-team alignment, and early trust-building enable CROs to scale efficiently while protecting customer retention and profitability.

“If you get your focus right, your approach right, and your proposition right, and you approach the customer with insight into their organization, their challenges, and how you can help them, there isn’t going to be a need to turn your entire sales organization and approach upside down.” - Mark Greenaway

In this episode, Mark explains how CROs can protect scale by aligning marketing, sales, and customer success around a tightly defined ideal customer profile. He shares why saying no early protects profitability, how trust drives expansion and retention, and why modern CROs must orchestrate the entire revenue ecosystem rather than optimizing individual functions in isolation.

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