In this episode, Stephanie and I sit down to catch up after a few days that took us in different directions physically, emotionally, and relationally. We talk about travel, family, friendships, personal goals, and the quiet moments that shape a shared. From baby showers and long drives to PodFest, legacy conversations, and unexpected affirmation, this episode is a reflection on how separate experiences can still deepen the life and business we are building together.

Topics covered in this episode

• Stephanie’s trip to Tennessee for a baby shower and meaningful time with a lifelong friend
• Family time over the holidays and why protecting certain traditions still matters
• Stephanie’s reading goals for the year and creating space for personal joy
• Learning sourdough and embracing the patience required to grow something slowly
• Cliff’s return to PodFest and reconnecting with people who were a deep part of his early journey
• Conversations that stirred emotion, memory, and a sense of coming home
• Honoring legacy, relationships, and the impact that continues beyond visibility
• The experience of being seen in unexpected ways and what that unlocked internally
• How parallel journeys can still move a shared life forward together

This episode marks a milestone I never imagined when I first sat down in front of a microphone twenty years ago.

Stephanie and I reflect on how podcasting began as a simple experiment in December 2005. At the time, it felt like just another hobby. I had plenty of those back then. Most of them burned hot for a season and quietly faded away. Podcasting was different. Neither of us knew it at the time, but it would become the one hobby that never died.

We talk openly about those early days, including Stephanie’s hesitation to join me behind the microphone and the very real discomfort she felt at first. What started as her saying yes out of love and faith eventually turned into a shared rhythm that shaped our marriage, our family, and our work for decades.

This conversation is also about growth. Personal growth. Emotional growth. The kind that only happens when you put your voice into the world and allow it to become a mirror. I share how podcasting revealed blind spots, challenged my people-pleasing tendencies, and stretched me in ways I could not have predicted. There were moments I wanted to quit. There was even a goodbye episode that almost became the end. It didn’t.

Stephanie and I also talk about how life looks different now. Our kids are grown. The mental load of parenting has shifted. Our priorities are clearer. There is more peace, more awareness, and more intention behind how we use our time and energy.

We reflect on why stepping away from Podcast Answer Man years ago was necessary. Leaving made room for growth that could not have happened otherwise. And now, looking back with clarity, we can see why returning makes sense in a way it never could have before.

This episode is about honoring the journey. About recognizing that sometimes you have to walk away to become who you need to be. And about noticing the rare thing that keeps calling you back out of alignment.

Twenty years later, we are still here. Still talking. Still creating. Still grateful.

And that says something worth paying attention to.

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This month’s episode covers a lot of ground. Stephanie and I sit down and talk through what has shifted for us since the last time we recorded, and as it turns out, more has changed than either of us realized when we first sat down at the mics.

I share why I’ve gone back to my early-morning routine at Planet Fitness and how those quiet hours in the car are helping me get into deep flow states again. We talk about the trade-offs that come with that choice, including the time Stephanie and I used to spend together on our morning walks. Stephanie opens up about the changes she’s been making at home, her cleaning rhythm, decorating for Christmas, and how she’s rebuilding habits that got disrupted years ago.

We also talk about what we’re watching right now, including our attempt at Andor, my obsession with Pluribus, and our journey into Season 2 of Stranger Things. It ended up being a fun, honest, wide-ranging conversation that captures exactly where we are, right now, in the middle of life and business together.