Bruce Lee’s ghost influences us like very few others. Bob Marley, Muhammad Ali: these are the icons his legend walks with. In Water Mirror Echo: Bruce Lee and the Making of Asian America, Jeff Chang takes us inside kung fu, mindset and movies.

In the second part of the show we get into AI and the creative act. Does Chang use AI? How about his friend DJ Shadow?

(00:00) Bruce Lee, AI and the first draft

(02:06) Who was Bruce Lee?

(05:15) How Bruce Lee made Zen pop culture

(10:05) Bruce Lee's letter to himself and Napoleon Hill

(15:33) Bruce Lee's parents and wartime Hong Kong

(18:37) Seattle, racism and the cha cha

(21:19) The Big Boss, Fist of Fury and Enter the Dragon

(28:17) Be water: Bruce Lee's mantra and the real fight

(32:21) Water, mirror, echo: the meaning behind the book title

(34:25) Does Jeff Chang use AI?

(40:24) DJ Shadow on AI, sampling and Endtroducing

(48:26) Auto culture: could you love art made by a machine?

(54:28) Punch me: Bruce Lee's single-mindedness

How do you explain Bruce Lee to a 20-year-old who has never heard of him? Chang starts with John Wick and The Matrix: “he’s the guy that made all of that possible.”

Stay with us and you'll learn:

- How Bruce was a war baby in occupied Hong Kong, child film star and cha cha champion before being sent back to America at 18 to wait tables and learn about racism in Seattle

- About his role as Kato in The Green Hornet, and the letter he wrote himself at his lowest point, promising world fame and $10 million

- What's the difference between The Big Boss, Fist of Fury, Enter the Dragon.

- How Jeff and is old friend DJ Shadow use AI. Or don't.

Please enjoy the show.

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