1/19/26 - The Archdiocese of Boston finds itself once again at the center of national controversy following a Dedham parish’s decision to remove the figures of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph from its Nativity scene and replace them with a political sign reading “ICE WAS HERE,” implying the Holy Family would have been detained by federal immigration authorities. In this interview, C. J. Doyle, Executive Director of the Catholic Action League of Massachusetts, joins us to walk through the unfolding scandal at Saint Susanna Parish, where Pastor Fr. Stephen Josoma refused a direct order from Archbishop Richard Henning to remove what the archdiocese itself called “divisive political messaging,” demanded dialogue instead of obedience, and was ultimately permitted to leave the display in place throughout the Christmas season. The situation escalated when a small group of faithful Catholics—some elderly—gathered quietly to pray the Rosary in reparation near the church, only to have police called on them by parish staff, while the politicized Nativity display remained untouched. Doyle examines what these incidents reveal about disobedience, sacrilege, unequal enforcement of Church discipline, media pressure from secular outlets, and the long-standing influence of Boston’s political and cultural establishment on ecclesiastical decision-making. The conversation also widens to cover other significant developments affecting the Catholic Church in the Boston area, as Doyle explains the recent efforts of the Catholic Action League to defend orthodoxy, protect the faithful, and hold Church leadership accountable amid ongoing cultural and institutional challenges.