Ministry transitions don’t have to hurt people — but too often, they do.

In the Season 2 opener of Beyond the Numbers, Josh unpacks what happens when church leadership transitions go wrong — and what healthy, Gospel-centered handoffs actually look like.

From erased leaders to unhealthy comparisons, we explore why many transitions feel more like corporate rebrands than spiritual shepherding. Rooted in Scripture and real experience, this episode offers practical wisdom for incoming leaders, outgoing leaders, and churches navigating change with integrity.

If you’ve been wounded by a ministry transition — or want to lead one well — this conversation is for you.

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Christmas has always been my favorite time of year — the lights, the nostalgia, the warmth.

But there was one Christmas where I completely missed Jesus.

Not because I didn’t love Him…

But because I was too busy doing things for Him to actually be with Him.

If you’re a pastor, leader, or volunteer who’s exhausted by Christmas services, productions, or ministry demands — this episode is for you.

We’ll explore:

✨ Why so many ministry leaders “miss” Jesus during Christmas

✨ What Bethlehem teaches us about spiritual busyness

✨ How to refocus your heart and rediscover peace this season

✨ What healthy, restful ministry looks like at Christmas

Don’t rush through this season. Don’t miss Jesus.

🎧 Listen to the full episode of Beyond the Numbers — available on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts.

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In this special wrap-up episode of Beyond the Numbers, I bring together three experienced ministry leaders — Katelyn, Ed, and Taylor — to answer the big question: What does a healthy church look like when you’re not just measuring attendance or revenue?

With several decades of combined service we unpack:

- How to spot signs of health that don’t show up on a spreadsheet

- What to do when the church culture chases numbers instead of people

- What leadership development looks in different ministry environments

- Building a strong christian community inside and outside of the the building

- The role of genuine relationships, spiritual depth, and volunteer care in real ministry

- Mistakes we’ve seen and how you can avoid them

If you’re a pastor, Next-Gen leader, or ministry team wanting to lead healthier, more sustainable church culture — this is for you.

🎙️ Listen, learn, and let’s together move Beyond the Numbers. 🔗 Subscribe & find full episodes here: https://linktr.ee/beyondthenumberpc

Katelyn Miner: https://www.berkshiredreamcenter.org/

Ed Pichetter: https://www.newenglandrevivalcovenant.org/

Taylor Williams: https://www.mosaicchurchevans.org/ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-art-of-holiness/id1513040080

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