In this episode, we sit down with Joe Mischik of Painless Pool Care out of the Phoenix/Scottsdale area of Arizona. Joe has found an edge becoming a self-proclaimed “chemistry nerd" and mastering LSI. He also shares how mastering startups, caring for black pool surfaces, and drainless acid washes has allowed him to build a premium client base.

In this episode of Between Two Stops, host Niki Acosta welcomes Joe DiAnna Sr. and Joseph DiAnna Jr. from Primate Pool Tools. They discuss the origins of their company, the advantages of carbon fiber poles, and the innovations in their new Gen 2 poles. The conversation also covers Joe Sr.'s journey from the restaurant industry to pool maintenance, the importance of custom branding, and the warranty and customer support they offer. The episode concludes with a discussion about the future of Primate Pool Tools and their commitment to quality and customer satisfaction.

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In this episode of Between Two Stops, host Niki Acosta dives deep with Kyle Peter, founder of Nevergreen Pools, whose remarkable journey from servicing 12 pools solo to managing a 1,300-pool empire is packed with insight. Kyle shares the gritty, honest evolution of his business—covering breakthrough growth milestones, the power of data-driven decisions, route acquisitions, and how Skimmer’s billing solution helped streamline operations.

From leapfrogging responsibilities to obsessively systematizing every part of his business, Kyle offers real talk on what it really takes to scale, including how to hire, when to invest, and why margins sometimes shrink before they grow. Plus, hear his take on the changing landscape of pool service marketing, the rise of AI, and why your reviews (and your response time) matter more than ever.

If you're building or scaling a pool service business—or just love a great entrepreneurial story—this episode is a must-listen.