In this very special episode, Samuel tells a story of betrayal, love, and brotherhood. He guides listeners as they follow one of the last prominent gangs of train robbers of the Old West, an international manhunt involving the Pinkerton detectives and the FBI, which caused the leader of the gang, Bill Matthews (#UN), to have an incredible brief stay at the Idaho State Penitentiary. Making him the most famous Idaho prisoner you have never heard of before.

Between the gunfights, assassinations, dead-or-alive bounties, and shocking twists, you will not want to miss The Hunt for the Bill Matthews Gang.

Please help support A City Behind Wall Exhibit today! https://history.idaho.gov/reimagining/

In this live episode, recorded on March 28, 2026, at the Podfort stage at Boise Contemporary Theater during the Treefort Music Festival, Anthony shares the story of Hillis Poulsen #5828 (Grand Larceny) and explores how his artwork may have helped shape Boise as we know it today. Samuel dives into the mysterious case of a missing man and the nationwide search that followed to find his killer, Paul Copeland #3832 (Murder in the 2nd Degree).

In this episode, Anthony and Samuel sit down with Idaho State Historical Society Executive Director Janet Gallimore and Development & Membership Administrator Seth Wheeler to talk about A City Behind Walls, the new immersive survey exhibition being developed at the Old Idaho Penitentiary.

Anthony also sits down with Exhibit Developer Tim Pfaff for an inside look at the new Survey Gallery, walking through the exhibition and exploring how we are reimagining the way visitors experience more than 100 years of Idaho’s prison history.

This is more than a new exhibition—it is a new way to experience the Old Pen. From the stories of the people who lived and worked behind its walls to the larger history of crime, punishment, and life in Idaho, A City Behind Walls will transform how visitors understand this historic site.

The exhibition is being made possible through the support of our community, and you can help bring it to life. To learn more, watch a fly-through of the new exhibition, and find out how you can support A City Behind Walls, visit:

https://history.idaho.gov/reimagining/

In this Stool Pigeon Saturday, Anthony and Samuel interview Daniel H Neal, author of No Forgiveness - Family, Polygamy, Murder, and Justice Among Idaho's Pioneering Mormons. Daniel recounts his career as a journalist and his techniques to research the fascinating account of his family's history and a murder rooted in a water-rights dispute in Idaho's Teton Valley.You can purchase Daniel's book in the Old Idaho Penitentiary Souvenir Confinement shop.

In this episode, Skye covers the complicated life of Elizabeth Grant #11234 (Forgery), whose troubled childhood and struggle with alcohol addiction eventually landed her behind the walls of the Idaho State Penitentiary. Meanwhile, Anthony tells the brutal and tragic story of Earl Boan #9599 (Murder in the 1st Degree), an escaped mental patient who turned on the person who tried to help him. Listener discretion is advised as we discuss murder, self-harm, and suicide.

Oral Histories:

Clark, Carringer, and Dobson, 2/22/1979, Idaho State Archives.Idaho State Penitentiary Guard Chet Stinnett, 5/27/1992, Idaho State Archives.

Dennis Clark, 4/1/1982, Idaho State Archives.

Rodger Hall, 11/12/1993, Idaho State Archives.

Russ Anspaugh, 4/6/1982, Idaho State Archives.

Special thanks to Charlee Draper for the additional voice acting.

It's not often you get to sit down in person with a real stagecoach driver. In this episode of Behind Gray Walls, Samuel sits down with rancher, historian, and local legend Mike Hanley, who has been driving stagecoaches for more than 60 years.

Mike, who is currently donating the historic vehicles he has personally restored to create the Mike Hanley Wagon Barn at the Owyhee County Historical Museum, joins Samuel to discuss the history of stagecoaches, his own experiences behind the reins, and what inspired him to make such a remarkable donation of his life's work.

If you would like to support the creation of the Mike Hanley Wagon Barn, please consider making a donation at:

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