What if the rejection you cried over was actually God redirecting your life?

Rejection is HARD. Trust me, I know. I’ve cried over it. I’ve lamented it. I’ve had my “woe is me” moments. 😩😂 But there are some things I once asked God to change that I can now look back on and say: “Lord, THANK YOU for the rejection.” 🙌🏾

On this episode of Band Pit to Pulpit: The Documentary Podcast, I sit down with Dr. Carlos Kelly for a conversation about calling, rejection, redirection, timing, purpose, and trusting God when His plan looks nothing like the one you had for yourself. One of the truths that emerged from our conversation was simple: “God’s rejection was redirection.” Sometimes God changes the plan to get us exactly where He wants us. The door closes. The opportunity disappears. The timeline changes.

The answer is no. And while we’re trying to understand what went wrong, God may already be using what we call rejection to accomplish redirection. Looking back over my own journey from the band pit to the pulpit, I can see it differently now. Some of what hurt me was helping me. Some of what disappointed me was developing me.

And some of the doors I cried over were never supposed to be the final destination. Because ultimately, it’s about getting where God wants you, when God wants you there.

It’s His time. Not yours. ⏰🙏🏾 🎙️ BAND PIT TO PULPIT: THE DOCUMENTARY PODCAST Season 2 | Episode 4 Featuring Dr. Carlos Kelly

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Same call. Different seats.

What happens when the platform is no longer the point?

On this episode of Band Pit to Pulpit, I sit down with my friend Raymond Darius Jackson, Director of Worship & Creative Arts at Beulahland Bible Church, for a conversation that reaches far beyond music. We talk about creativity, leadership, trust, ministry, and what it means to serve when God gives you influence without allowing the platform to become your identity. Raymond and I have shared enough life and ministry to have a conversation that goes beyond the surface. We talk candidly about being trusted with responsibility, navigating leadership, developing people, and understanding that sometimes the greatest evidence of growth is what you do with the freedom you’ve been given.

My granddaddy used to say: “You gave me enough rope to hang myself, but I didn’t.” That idea opens the door to a larger conversation about trust, stewardship, maturity, and leadership.

What do you do when somebody believes in you enough to give you room? And what kind of leader do you become when you no longer have to prove that you belong in the room? This one is about more than the band pit.

It’s about what happens BEYOND THE PLATFORM.

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Sometimes the people God uses to recognize your next are the same people who help you release your now.

In this personal episode of Band Pit to Pulpit, we talk with Bishop Teco Manuel about music, Christian ministry, spiritual calling, and faith transitions. Before the pastoral title and before the vision was clear, Bishop Teco saw potential beyond the band pit.

If you are navigating a transition in your faith, feeling a push toward leadership, or learning to trust God's timing when He pulls you beyond what people already know you're gifted at, this conversation is for you.

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In the Season Two premiere of Band Pit to Pulpit, the camera turns toward me as Executive Producer Mr. Devin Jackson steps behind the camera and asks the questions.

This is more than an introduction. It’s an honest look at the journey between seasons: the transitions, rejection, unexpected opportunities, difficult lessons, open and closed doors, and the moments that helped move me from professional musicianship into full-time pastoral ministry.

Some of the story unfolded publicly. Much of it didn’t. In a candid question-and-answer conversation, we unpack what changed, what it cost, what I learned, and how I can now look back and recognize that even when I couldn’t understand the process,

God wasn’t wasting any of it. I also open and close this episode with a few thoughts of my own, setting the stage for the people and conversations you’ll encounter throughout Season Two. Because Band Pit to Pulpit has never simply been about changing professions. It’s about calling. Formation. Rejection. Transition. Purpose. Obedience.

It’s about what happens when God calls you beyond the place where you’ve already found success. MORE THAN A MUSICIAN. The story behind the sermons. The journey behind the titles. The process behind the platform. Welcome to Season Two of Band Pit to Pulpit. The journey continues…

We are kicking off this brand-new season with a fresh, intimate podcast-style format. Building on the foundation we laid last season, Dr. McCrae takes you deeper into the raw complexities, subtle details, and divine purpose behind walking out a season of transition. If you’ve ever found yourself navigating a shift, whether in ministry, career, or personal calling, this conversation is designed to meet you right where you are.

Join the movement, pull up a chair, and stay tuned for the journey ahead as we elevate kingdom conversations and showcase what God is doing behind the scenes.

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Title: The Pivot to Purpose | Band Pit to Pulpit with Dr. Brandon McCrae

Episode Summary

In this powerful season finale of Band Pit to Pulpit, host Dr. Brandon McCrae gets candid about what it really takes to step out of your comfort zone and walk into your calling. After years of balancing life as a full-time worship pastor and a gigging musician on the road with secular artists like Peabo Bryson, Dr. McCrae shares the exact moment God told him to pull back and step into pulpit ministry full-time.

Transition isn't easy, but it is necessary. Dr. McCrae reflects on the hard phone calls, the shift in his career, and the power of standing firm in faith through times of uncertainty. Whether you are facing a massive life pivot, stepping into leadership, or waiting on your next open door, this episode serves as an inspiring roadmap for remaining steadfast in the fight and trusting God with your future.

Key Takeaways

• Hearing the Call: Dr. McCrae’s experience receiving a confirming word to leave the secular touring circuit and shift fully into pastoral ministry.
• Navigating Difficult Transitions: The reality of stepping away from established roles and making hard choices to align with your higher purpose.
• The Power of Testimony: Why sharing the rough side of the journey helps others navigate their own spiritual and professional shifts.
• Staying in the Race: Encouragement on remaining faithful, patient, and prepared for the doors God is about to open.

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Legacy, Expectations, and the McCrae Music Mentorship

What happens when the music pit meets fatherhood? In this powerful episode of Band Pit to Pulpit, host Dr. Brandon McCrae sits down with his sons, Benjamin and Ethan, for a transparent look at faith, family, and musical heritage. Dr. McCrae opens up about the pivotal moment he learned he was going to be a father at 23—and how the wisdom from his own parents reframed a terrifying situation into one of the greatest blessings of his life.

Then, the mic flips. Benjamin shares the real-world pressure of stepping into the musical spotlight as "Brandon Jr.," navigating high expectations, and stepping into his own identity while honoring his father’s influence. Ethan rounds out the conversation with pure heart, sharing what it’s like growing up with a multi-instrumentalist dad who inspires his own musical dreams.

Key Topics Covered

• From Panic to Purpose: Dr. McCrae on facing young fatherhood, overcoming fear, and finding God's grace in unexpected turns.
• Carrying the Name: Benjamin on the weight and pride of following in a prominent father's musical footsteps.
• The Musical Mindset: How the McCrae family shares ideas, sharpens each other's talents, and communicates through music.
• Fatherly Legacy: A heartwarming look at mentorship, brotherhood, and raising the next generation of musicians.

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In this episode of Band Pit to Pulpit, host Dr. Brandon McCrae is joined by his wife, Erica B. Thompson-McCrae, for an honest, transparent conversation on navigating life, marriage, ministry, and music together.

In This Episode:

• How They Met & The Six-Year Wait: Dr. BMac shares the humorous story of slipping his phone number into Erica’s phone at church six years before they officially began dating and eventually marrying within seven months.
• The Reality of Being a Musician's Wife: Erica opens up about the unique challenges of supporting a heavily booked musician, managing travel schedules, and holding down the home front with their children.
• Overcoming Doubts & Stereotypes: Erica addresses initial skepticism from family regarding a career as a full-time musician and how Dr. BMac’s work ethic and versatile talent proved his ability to provide.
• Stepping Into Ministry Together: The couple reflects on Dr. BMac’s transition into preaching, Erica’s own spiritual transformation, and her journey toward earned seminary degrees and her upcoming initial sermon.
• Embracing the Unboxed Role: A conversation on resisting traditional "first lady" expectations, preparing for future pastoral leadership, and honoring wives in ministry.

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