In this episode of Average Age Groupers, Holly, Maggie and Laura open with winter fat-tire biking gear talk (ski helmet/goggles, bar mitts, socks/boots, flat pedals, and the “N+1” bike problem) before debriefing Ironman Wisconsin weekend. They recap Saturday’s Madison 70.3 (cool and windy, choppy swim, a reported athlete death believed to be a cardiac event, a faster new bike course with less technical climbing, and a modified run), plus concerns about blatant drafting and frustration with the 70.3 Worlds performance pool system after a teammate’s 5:43 debut placed seventh in her Age group yet dropped to 72nd overall when adjusted. Sunday’s full Ironman spectating focused on teammate Paul, tracking him across multiple bike and run viewing spots; they note Emily received a three-minute drafting penalty while passing. They praise the improved athlete experience under Ironman’s new CEO (start buildup, upgraded finish line, first-timer bell) and share how Wisconsin reignited motivation to race again while they stress about Oregon 70.3 selling out and begin sketching expensive, shifting 2027 plans including potential Worlds qualification, Steamboat, California, and community/podcast growth.

00:00 Cold Weather Bike Gear

01:04 N Plus One Bike Talk

02:53 Podcast Intro and Ironman Plans

03:11 Oregon Registration Panic

04:34 Ironman Wisconsin Setup

06:05 70.3 Saturday Recap

06:36 Swim Tragedy Discussion

08:14 New 70.3 Course and Drafting

13:22 Performance Pool Confusion

15:57 Ironman Sunday Spectator Plan

17:45 Chasing Paul on the Bike

22:12 Old Sauk and Timber Loop

25:55 Cheering on the Climbs

27:35 Downtown Run Course Changes

30:22 Dead Shifting Battery

31:25 State Street Noise

33:00 Chasing the Finish

34:06 Spectating Reflections

35:23 New Ironman Experience

39:06 Madison Magic Returns

43:55 Planning 2027 Season

44:43 Local Winners Shoutout

46:05 Next Year Race Puzzle

50:12 Budgeting and Sponsors

53:35 Upcoming Races Updates

56:02 Cyclocross Tomorrow

57:40 Guests and Support

58:53 Wrap Up and Follow

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On Average Age Groupers, hosts Holly, Maggie, and Laura welcome Waterfall Racing teammate Hector to share his endurance story, from always having bikes as a kid in Mexico City to moving to Michigan at age nine and later riding and commuting by bike in Chicago. He describes how his mom’s breast cancer shaped his early exposure to charity endurance events, then progressing from 5Ks to the Chicago Marathon, where personal loss and an empty finish-line experience contributed to stepping away from running for years. After moving to Florida, Hector returns to sport through triathlon, teaching himself swimming via observation and YouTube, and completing a challenging first 70.3 at Clash Daytona while learning fueling and pacing through trial and error. He then enters the gravel scene, completes Unbound 50 on a modified cruiser, upgrades to a gravel bike, prepares for Unbound 200, later supports teammates at Unbound, and discusses future goals including returning to Unbound and possibly tackling Georgia’s Six Gap.

00:00 Last Minute Guest Intro

02:05 Meet Hector via Waterfall

03:07 Early Bikes and Family Roots

06:30 Moving to Michigan

09:14 College Crash and First 50

11:48 City Riding and Close Calls

14:11 Cancer and Charity Endurance

17:20 Chicago Marathon Heartbreak

19:37 Disney Marathon and Hiatus

22:25 Florida Reset and First Tri

26:52 Self Coached Training Approach

28:45 Clash Daytona Chaos

31:47 Cramp To Finish Line

33:08 Joining Waterfall Racing

33:49 Unbound Signup And DIY Bike

36:18 Racing The Unbound 50

38:57 Pikes Peak Climb Lessons

41:36 Training For Unbound 200

43:38 Crash And Concussion

47:30 Haines City 70.3 Recap

50:16 Six Gap Mountain Challenge

53:37 Future Plans And Wrap Up

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Laura, Maggie, and Holly reunite in person on Average Age Groupers, first joking about Maggie’s nonstop travel and their strong opinions on socks, then shifting to open-water swimming tips ahead of Ironman Wisconsin. They discuss why wetsuits can feel safer, how a wetsuit should fit (tight, worked up around shoulders), sleeved vs sleeveless options, buoyancy shorts, caring for gear, and using Body Glide or TriSlide to prevent chafing and help with donning. They share sighting strategies like “crocodile eyes,” handling chop, drafting, avoiding traffic when stopping, staying wide for space, and using swim buoys for visibility and flotation. They briefly cover Ironman Wisconsin’s two-loop swim and strong water support, note current-assisted swims like Oregon 70.3, and update that Aaron is out of Ironman Wisconsin after re-breaking his collarbone and seeking a deferral.

00:00 Reunited In Person

00:12 Maggie Travel Chaos

01:31 The Great Sock Debate

03:34 Podcast Intro Updates

04:49 Open Water Swim Basics

07:47 Wetsuit Safety And Fit

10:57 Sleeves Brands And Care

14:51 Buoyancy Shorts Option

15:38 Sighting Like A Crocodile

19:50 Race Navigation And Drafting

24:24 Swim Buoys And Visibility

25:32 Chafing Lube And Comfort

29:28 Fear Creatures And Confidence

32:04 Swim Fears and Motivation

33:16 Ironman Wisconsin Swim Breakdown

36:57 Ocean and Choppy Swim Tips

40:22 Current Assisted Swim Hype

42:20 Oregon 70.3 Beginner Friendly

44:39 Aaron Injury Wisconsin Update

47:06 Spectating Plans and Games

50:16 Chequamegon MTB Prep Talk

54:03 Guests Team Updates and Wrap

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On Average Age Groupers, hosts Laura, Holly, Maggie, and Alyssa (returning guest) talk with Alyssa about how she became an endurance athlete, starting with swimming in Kansas, dabbling in college swimming and ultimate Frisbee, then discovering cycling during her LDS mission in California. She recounts buying her first road bike in 2015, doing an early sprint triathlon and multiple century rides, and learning race basics the hard way, including bonking, cramping, and her now-signature mustard packets. After moving to the DC area in 2017, she completed Ironman 70.3 Eagleman in 2018 and later shifted away from triathlon toward cycling. She shares how riding supports her mental health, how her friend Brian’s death shaped her motivation, and why she rode Unbound in his honor, including a stormy 200-mile experience. Alyssa also discusses run-club community, marathons, favorite places to ride, and possible future races like Steamboat.

00:00 Mic Stand Banter

00:19 Meet Alyssa

01:15 Swim Roots

03:16 Mission Bike Life

07:03 First Real Road Bike

08:43 First Tri And Century

13:02 Mustard Cramp Hack

16:24 Solo Riding Era

20:05 Move To DC Eagleman

25:25 Half Ironman Lessons

26:53 Cycling Focus And Loss

29:21 Unbound For Brian

32:41 Racing Mindset Wins

35:04 Racing With Friends

36:32 Cyclist Not Triathlete

37:42 Run Club Origins

39:20 Marathon Misery Lessons

43:38 Run And Raft Plans

45:55 Favorite Places To Ride

50:45 Kansas Gravel And Storms

54:01 Cold Weather Training Hacks

57:56 Next Season Race Calendar

01:00:58 Unbound Short Course Dreams

01:02:12 Wrap Up And Farewell

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The Average Age Groupers share a race recap from Ironman 70.3 Northern California in Redding, California, noting early recording technical issues. Laura describes her first-ever DNF, exiting the non-wetsuit-legal swim (78.1°F) after repeated stops, chaotic contact, difficulty sighting into the sun, and limited visible water support; she’s extracted by paddleboard/boat, returns barefoot to spectators, and later spectates with help from Casey’s VIP access. Holly, Laura and Claire recount a disorienting swim with left turns and a “gate” between red buoys, sun glare, heavy contact, and a possibly long course. Holly details a scenic but hard bike with steep descents, wind, crashes, poor etiquette, false flats, and hot conditions, then a hilly, hot run with walk-run strategies, ibuprofen, and a hamstring cramp near mile 10 before finishing. Claire finishes strong, meets the mayor mid-run, chases a sub-six, but gets severe chafing from peeing while running; Casey medals her. They criticize the new 70.3 Worlds slot “performance pool” math after Claire’s rankings drop despite a small age-adjustment, and they discuss upcoming plans including Maggie’s Chequamegon mountain bike race and recovery goals.

00:00 Welcome and Audio Disclaimer

01:08 Race Recap Setup

02:09 Laura DNF Swim Story

09:16 Tech Fix and Pre Swim Vibes

10:31 Swim Course Chaos and Sun Glare

18:11 Swim Contact and Wetsuit Traffic

21:22 DNF Logistics and VIP Help

24:02 T1 Moments and Heading Out

26:21 Bike Course Beauty and Early Descent

31:44 Bike Etiquette and Course Difficulty

35:10 False Flats Steep Turns and Taking Souls

37:43 Women Finishers and Awards Questions

39:04 Bike Course Highlights

40:12 Urban Roads and Underpass

41:09 T2 Troubles and Blisters

45:49 Run Start and Survival Mode

49:48 Claire Run Strategy and Mayor

54:42 Cramping and Aid Stations

58:21 Finish Line and VIP Medal

01:00:47 Chafing Confession and Sub Six Push

01:04:44 Would We Race Again

01:05:17 Slot Allocation Controversy

01:11:24 Next Races and Wrap Up

Laura, Maggie, and Holly celebrate the podcast’s 20th episode, an above-average milestone, by sharing “20 tips” they’ve learned as non-elite triathletes balancing jobs, training, and life. They open with updates about helping a friend move and a warm open-water swim at Fireman’s Park with fewer weeds than expected, then move into practical race and training advice: find a community or team, keep a learning/beginner mindset, fuel with enough carbs and protein (including whole-food options), plan post-race meetups and phone access, and pack items like trash bags, extra water for the swim chute, safety pins for timing chips, and a small pharmacy kit. They also cover bike and race-day tactics (downshifting, tire pressure, helmet replacement, photochromic lenses), heat management with ice, transition practice, finish-chute photo plans, buying meaningful race memorabilia, and the overarching reminder to keep the sport fun.

00:00 Couchside Catchup

00:54 Open Water Weed Talk

03:38 Episode 20 Milestone

05:01 20 Tips Kickoff

06:05 Find Your Training Crew

08:59 Learning Beginner Mindset

11:50 Fueling And Carbs

16:40 Post Race Meetups

19:05 Race Day Bag Hacks

20:34 Swim Chute Hydration

22:06 Timing Chip Safety

23:00 Bike Gear Stop Signs

24:54 Beat The Heat With Ice

27:47 DIY Arm Sleeves

28:52 Stay Warm in the Chute

29:50 Race Day Pharmacy Kit

30:57 Bodily Functions Reality

33:06 Helmet Replacement Rules

34:29 Virginia Tech Helmet Ratings

35:18 Photochromic Bike Glasses

36:28 Energy Comes Back

38:20 Know When to Stop

39:24 Deflate Tires in Heat

40:44 Chamois Cream and Fit

43:50 Practice Your Transition

45:18 Finish Chute Photo Plan

47:24 Buy the Race Memento

48:32 Have Fun Not Pressure

51:36 Training for Life Sidebar

53:05 Wrap Up and Where to Find Us

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Maggie, Laura, and Holly open by describing nonstop summer travel and feeling perpetually packed, then shift to their upcoming inaugural Ironman 70.3 in Redding, California. They explain how their original North Carolina 70.3 plan pivoted after scheduling conflicts and Holly’s April 2 car accident, which later revealed whiplash and a concussion that derailed running and swimming for weeks. Holly describes struggling through a demanding brick-heavy build, fear riding on roads and a breakdown during a cold, rainy Lake Placid ride, and worries about finishing due to run limitations. Laura shares self-coaching with an 80/20 approach, prioritizing not burning out on biking, higher run volume, and calmer swimming confidence. The episode also focuses on mental health: winter depression, dark intrusive thoughts after a February crash, identity and grief around racing setbacks (including Aaron’s accident and missed Lake Placid), and the challenge of balancing training with full-time work, ending with plans for a post-race recap and future guests.

00:00 Travel Life Catchup

02:01 Podcast Setup And Topics

02:58 Why Redding 703

03:19 Race Switch Backstory

07:04 Course And Logistics

08:44 Redding Build Reality Check

10:23 Training After Accident

13:37 Laura Self Coaching Plan

17:12 Weather And Course Hype

21:37 Mental Health Pivot

22:55 Winter Blues And First Crash

27:16 Car Accident And Invisible Injury

30:03 Unbound Mindset And Support

31:43 Racing With Support

32:43 Unbound Aftershocks

35:06 Whiplash Recovery Timeline

36:05 Road Riding Anxiety

39:56 Lake Placid Breakdown

41:48 Pulling The Plug

45:21 Back To Familiar Routes

46:58 Running Feels Impossible

49:39 Grief And Uncertainty

53:35 Mental Health In Sport

58:27 Identity And Balance

01:02:53 What Comes Next

01:05:45 Wrap Up And Thanks

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Holly, Laura, Maggie, and Logan open Average Age Groupers by restating the show’s mission to share non-elite endurance athlete stories, then dig into why Logan chose endurance sports: after college he quit hockey (which he’d played since age 3), got into road biking, and chased the longest bike race he could, landing in Ironman despite barely being able to swim. Logan recounts racing Milkman 70.3 and Ironman Wisconsin 2023, where he stopped eating on the run and finished with over 2,000 calories unused, followed by cramping and a post-race recovery led by Holly and Aaron. In 2024 he improved fueling, raced Wisconsin and then California six weeks later, struggled with wind, under-fueled again, and finished with severe blisters. He qualified for 70.3 Worlds in Spain, then in 2025 moved to Denver, had knee surgery, raced 70.3 Boise, and at Worlds dealt with lost gear, panic, crashes, and zero-carb riding. Logan closes by describing joining a Colorado cycling team, time trials, a crash, a podium, a bloody marathon, and plans to take a year off triathlon to focus on cycling.

00:00 Meet the Hosts

00:45 Why This Podcast Exists

01:28 Logan’s Endurance Origin

02:59 Minnesota Hockey Childhood

04:52 Deep End Into Ironman

06:52 First 70.3 Reality Check

09:31 First Ironman Nutrition Fail

13:40 Post Ironman Marathon Jump

14:47 Two Ironmans in 2024

16:13 Musselman Podium and Worlds Slot

17:54 Ironman Wisconsin Breakthrough

21:09 California Struggle and Blisters

28:53 California to Colorado

29:26 Knee Surgery Comeback

31:43 Worlds Travel Chaos

35:29 Race Morning Anxiety

36:28 Swim Panic Survival

37:23 Bike Crash Nutrition Loss

38:59 Run Wipeout and Grind

42:56 Cycling Team Switch

46:39 Time Trial Fitness Boom

48:28 Gravel Crash Lesson

51:42 Marathon Bloody Blisters

56:24 Going All In Cycling

58:48 Final Wrap and Plugs

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