Jen and Lisa chat about filming walk-on songs (including Ricky Martin’s “The Cup of Life”), and complain about wildfire smoke, high-top tables, and food trucks. The episode’s main theme winds up the career change trilogy with guest Liz Figueira, who explains moving from big-law litigation to the New York State AG’s office and then the EEOC and Lizzie Hughes switching from criminal law to immigration and then to public finance. Trivia with Bill includes musical questions and some geography, and this episode’s idiom isn’t “barking up the wrong tree,” followed by more sunscreen product picks and shout-outs.

00:00 Show Intro and Disclaimer

11:42 Sheep World Cup Fact Check

19:45 Meet Liz Figueira

50:38 Law Daughter Lizzie Hughes’s (Very) Early Career Pivot

01:00:55 Musical Trivia with Trivia Master MacDonald

01:12:00 Product(s) of the Week

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01:14:40 Shout Outs

Career and Geographic Moves: From Public Defense to Academia, and Buffalo to HarvardJen and Lisa open the Ask Your Law Mom podcast with banter about appointment frustrations, Toy Story 5, and fact checks about roosting birds and NYPD Blue’s homing pigeons, then discuss the origins of “Yankee Doodle.” The episode’s theme is making moves, including geographical ones, featuring guest Professor Liz Boals on her path from public defender to academia, an explanation of what tenure is, and moving to Stetson in 2020 amid COVID. They also interview Hannah Witkin, a paralegal starting Harvard Law with public-interest goals, and her partner Trinity RIdout, who is moving from Buffalo to Boston and planning a career change, discussing community-building, support during 1L, and cultural favorites. The episode ends with trivia involving FIFA, fireworks, and shark-attack, and a product recommendation for Simple Modern water bottles and backpacks.
00:00 Welcome & Intro

06:37 Bird Fact Checks

14:46 Yankee Doodle Origins

27:28 Interview with Professor Liz Boals

01:00:07 Meet Young Professionals Hannah Witkin and Trinity Ridout

01:29:40 Trivia with Master MacDonald

01:42:19 Product of the Week: Simple Modern Water Bottles

https://www.simplemodern.com/products/summit-kids-water-bottle-with-straw-lid-18oz-324

01:46:32 Shoutouts and Wrap Up

Jen and Lisa discuss their shared dislike of change while acknowledging it is constant and can be positive, reflecting on end-of-school-year transitions, an amazing new colleague, and a work trip to the EATS conference in St. Pete’s/Treasure Island, where they tried “Mom Water” and visited Malio’s. They interview success coach Deb Pratt about career change and learn about PEST/VUCA and VUCA Prime, as well as balancing job search with strategic transition. Lizzy Vinyl-Adams shares her career shift from Neighborhood Legal Services to working with Jen & LIsa, advice on seizing opportunities, and now-famous Gen Z slang. The episode also includes a related idiom segment, an iconic Pride Month-themed trivia segment, and a possible manatee sighting.
00:00 Why Change Is Hard04:36 Malios Podcast Pilgrimage (check out Jen's favorite - Lawyers Behaving Badly Episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lawyers-behaving-badly/id1654960102?i=1000604439661)07:34 On the Ground With Trent10:42 Meet Success Coach O. Deborah Pratt: https://www.consultacoach-odp.com49:19 Product of the Week: Diet Cherry Coke Returns: https://www.target.com/p/diet-coke-feisty-cherry-12pk-12-fl-oz-cans/-/A-1295295852:11 (Re)Meet Lizzy Vinyl01:04:38 Lisa's Bad Parenting (or Crafting) Confession01:05:57 Pigeonholed Idiom Explained01:10:22 Pride Month Trivia Game with Bill MacDonald01:20:43 Shoutouts

In Season 2, Episode 7 of Ask Your Law Mom, Jen and Lisa recap attending their law daughter Jane’s wedding to John, share hot takes and play live “on-the-ground” interviews about the no-cake choice, smelling salts, and Buffalo Bills references. The episode then continues their series on dealing with difficult coworkers by interviewing Heather Johnston, an attorney and psychologist, who explains her career path and offers a step-by-step conflict approach. Professor Angie McDuff discusses communication patterns in law students, active listening, building relationships, de-escalation, and resources. They add an AI “tone check” tip, do trivia with Bill McDonald, cover an idiom (“on your toes”), fact-check Lisa's cats (Cupcake and Mae), recommend Trader Joe’s bonding shampoo/conditioner, and give shout-outs.

00:00 Welcome and Wedding Highlights05:16 Live Wedding Interviews

09:15 Main Topic: Difficult Co-Workers and Excellent Communication 11:58 Meet Lawyer/Psychologist Heather Johnston https://illumination-psychotherapy.com/45:23 Communication Skills Spotlight with Professor Angelyn McDuff01:14:05 AI Tone Check Tips01:18:50 Trivia With Bill MacDonald01:26:10 Idiom of the Week: On Your Toes01:27:46 Fact Check01:29:50 Product of the Week: Trader Joe's Bonding Shampoo & Conditioner https://www.traderjoes.com/home/products/pdp/bonding-shampoo-08284201:32:13 Sunscreen Update: Mineral Based Recommendation https://bluelizardsunscreen.com/products/sensitive-mineral-sunscreen-lotion-spf-5001:34:04 Shout Outs and Wrap

Jen and Lisa open season two, episode six of the Ask Your Law Mom podcast with a brief commencement recap and delve into this episode's main topic: helping new legal professionals handle difficult coworkers, featuring in-house attorney Amy Blakely (“jackass whisperer”) on building support networks, finding something to like, using humor, and self-care, and conflict-management professor Elizabeth McMillan on conflict definitions, self-management, preparation, generational dynamics, boundaries, and resources. 00:00 Welcome to the Season of Graduations! Shout out to Pretzalo https://www.facebook.com/share/1Bao3j4ECt/?mibextid=wwXIfr and The Lunch Box https://www.thelunchboxbuffalo.com/

15:45 Macro and Micro advice from Jen and Lisa on the difficult coworker21:36 Guest Amy Blakeley, Jackass Whisperer46:49 Guest Elizabeth McMillan, Conflict Management01:21:02 Idiom of the Week: cross the line01:22:52 Product of the Week: Stelle Dancewear https://stelleworld.com/01:24:18 Trivia *Without* Bill01:31:31 Sports Wall Fact Check01:37:24 Graduation Shout Outs Finale

Jen and Lisa open with a fact check on Imperial vs. Metric measurements (including cups, gallons, and stones), then pivot to advice for summer legal internships and for employers training interns. Guests Nicole Kobis and Lucy Dadd describe their firms’ summer programs and what they value and insights to both students and employers about successful summer programs. Rising 3L Sarah Sauer shares self-starting, using mentors, asking questions, and getting comfortable being uncomfortable. The episode ends with trivia, a hockey hot take answered by Professor Drew, idioms, and a product pick (Vuori).
00:00 Welcome and Imperial vs Metric Fact Check
27:51 Meet Guest Nicole Kobis, Lindabury - https://www.lindabury.com/nicole-a-kobis.html
52:24 Meet Talent Leader Lucy Dadd, Harter Secrest & Emery - https://hselaw.com
01:10:07 Meet Rising 3L Sarah Sauer
01:25:56 Hot Takes Hockey Logic from...Jen(?!)
01:28:48 Product of the Week - Vuori - https://vuoriclothing.com
01:29:50 Summer Trivia Showdown
01:35:24 Bonus Qs and Mother’s Day
01:37:01 Live Hockey Fact Check
01:40:31 Sports Idioms and Wrap

Jen rages about struggling to meet protein goals while Lisa is struggling with be forced to unnecessarily fill out forms. Guest Kate Alnutt shares her inspiration and tips for maximizing protein intake, including tracking using ChatGPT and meal-prep/high-protein ideas like protein coffee, overnight oats, and protein-focused bowls. Law daughters Jane and Lizzie discuss maintaining fitness as young lawyers, marathon/half-marathon training, bar prep routines, and sourdough resilience. The episode ends with trivia (National Ice Cream Month and AFI movie heroes are both lawyers and mothers), the idiom “throw your hat in the ring,” and a BloomChic pocket swimsuit product pick.

00:00 Welcome 04:39 Forms Fatigue Rant12:11 Moon Calendar (Passover & Easter) Fact Check17:54 Protein Rage25:50 Kate Alnutt Joins the Pod01:08:07 The Law Daughters Offer Details of Fitness Routines as Lawyers

01:27:22 Trivia with Bill MacDonald

01:33:30 Idiom of the Week: Throw Your Hat in the Ring

01:34:37 Product of the Week: https://bloomchic.com/

Jen and Lisa open their Ask Your Law Mom podcast with discussion of recording delays, travel frustrations, and Easter Bunny anecdotes, then fact-check the youngest Supreme Court appointee. They answer a listener question about when to apply for jobs. The episode’s theme is “playing the long game,” linking strategy and consistency in careers and life, including adoption and other “liminal” waiting periods. Guest Fonda Kubiak describes her Buffalo legal career and community programs including a Supreme Court Historical Society My Hometown high school project seeking student and volunteer participation. 3L Francesca Manzella discusses winning a mediation competition in India and an outstanding advocate award at a South Carolina trial competition, and her preparation habits. The episode includes trivia with Bill McDonald and a product pick: infrared sauna/red light therapy at Lumos.

00:00 Podcast Intro: the weather, the Bunny, and travel planning woes14:15 Supreme Court Fact Check17:06 Stars Aligned Idiom19:58 Listener Question: Do I have to apply to a job post immediately?24:11 Playing The Long Game39:23 Interview of Fonda Kubiak and the My Hometown Project https://www.nywd.uscourts.gov/Civic-Education58:03 Meet Frankie Manzella01:23:11 Trivia Master Bill MacDonald Returns01:31:25 Product Of The Week: Lumos Infrared Sauna https://lumosinfraredsauna.com/01:33:21 Shout Outs And Wrap