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Join Founder and Executive Director of Abolitionist Sanctuary, Rev. Nikia S. Robert, Ph.D., in a podcast about Black women/mothers, religion, and mass punishment. Connect with us to be apart of a faith-based abolitionist movement!

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  • From Loss To Leverage: Reimagining Government With Black Women At The Core
    Jan 2 2026

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    Start with the sting, end with a plan. After a brutal political cycle and a year of losses, we refuse to romanticize resilience and instead ground it in what Bishop Leah Daughtry calls the ripple effect: small, faithful actions that travel farther than the splash. Together, we unpack how to turn communal values into public power, why the most radical choice today is real community, and how churches can move from Sunday language to Monday policy.

    We get specific. Community isn’t a vibe—it’s an operating system for change. You’ll hear how to map the most urgent local needs, identify who holds the policy levers, and meet electeds like employers meeting employees: with clarity, receipts, and accountability. We break down voting rights, disinformation, and the false lure of perfectionism at the polls. No candidate is flawless, but values show up on ballots every time. Choose the closest alignment, organize for the rest, and don’t cede ground to suppression that fights so hard precisely because our votes work.

    Strategy runs through every beat of this conversation. Project 2025 didn’t appear overnight, and neither will our counter. We outline a great reimagining—rebuilding agencies and systems not as they were, but as our communities need them to be, from education to health to global partnerships. That requires year-round organizing, local party engagement, and a willingness to lead. The leadership line is short. Step in.

    At the center stand Black women, whose civic muscle and economic impact move families, churches, and cities. Invest here and you lift entire ecosystems. Bishop Daughtry shares updates on Power Rising and her relaunch of The Faithful Citizen, inviting all of us to practice a public faith that protects dignity, expands opportunity, and wins material change.

    If this moved you, share it with a friend, subscribe for more candid conversations at the intersection of faith, abolition, and policy, and leave a review so others can find the show. Then tell us: what ripple will you start this week?

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    56 min
  • Investing In Black Girls: From Pushout To Possibility
    Dec 5 2025

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    What changes when we treat girls as sacred rather than disposable? We sit down with Dr. Monique Couvson —scholar, author of Pushout, and leader of G4GC—to map how schools, policies, and everyday assumptions push Black girls toward punishment instead of possibility. From her roots in San Francisco and the wisdom of ancestors to a clear-eyed analysis of data and discipline, she shows how faith, research, and philanthropy can work together to build learning spaces where belonging is the default and healing is the norm.

    We explore the core idea of pushout: the policies, practices, conditions, and prevailing consciousness that heighten contact with the juvenile and criminal legal systems. Dr. Morris explains why Black girls are overrepresented at every disciplinary decision point, how adultification bias and sexual violence histories shape outcomes, and why carceral language in schools—detention, infractions, zero tolerance—primes children for future harm. Her answer isn’t a softer version of punishment; it’s a different paradigm: restorative approaches with structure, culturally grounded social-emotional learning, and a commitment to schools as locations for healing.

    You’ll also hear how participatory research reframes power by recognizing participants as co-keepers of knowledge, and why the “righteous mind” matters for real learning—inviting students to bring their whole selves, question boldly, and practice discernment. We connect these insights to philanthropic strategy and community design, highlighting Girls Unlimited and funds that resource Black, Indigenous, and gender-expansive youth of color. The through line is agency: when we invest early, honor lived experience, and expand our collective imagination, justice stops being a pie to slice and becomes a garden we grow.

    If you care about education justice, restorative practices, and ending the criminalization of Black girls, this conversation offers both clarity and a blueprint. Listen, share with an educator or policymaker, and then tell us: what’s one carceral habit your community is ready to replace? Subscribe, leave a review, and join us as we build a faith-based abolitionist movement grounded in repair, relationship, and real safety.

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    59 min
  • Black Women, Wealth, And The Work Ahead
    Nov 8 2025

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    Faith, numbers, and land meet in a bold conversation about how Black families—and especially Black mothers—can move from survival to ownership. With guest Tawan Davis, CEO of The Steinbridge Group and NYU adjunct professor, we unpack the cycles behind DEI whiplash and government contraction, then chart a different route: activating underused HBCU and church land, replacing consumer debt with asset-backed leverage, and negotiating from ownership in a global economy that won’t wait for anyone.

    We look squarely at the statistics: rising unemployment for Black women, the caregiving load, and a persistent wage gap that stings hardest when paired with student debt. Then we pivot to solutions that build compounding value. Tawan lays out the matching principle in plain language—pair long-term debt with long-term, appreciating assets—and shows how mortgages, whole life policies, and stock portfolios differ from credit cards and car notes. From there, we zoom into practice: structuring projects on HBCU campuses and church-owned land to create housing, services, and jobs while keeping control and sharing upside.

    The heart of the story is ancestral. Matriarchs who crossed hostile highways bought homes, welcomed relatives, and built neighborhoods a down payment at a time. Their method still works—small money, big conviction, assets first—and their faith still sets our posture. We carry that ethic into a global frame: build mutual aid and community funds while accessing institutional capital on our terms. It’s not either-or. It’s Ubuntu and underwriting, legacy and leverage, scripture and spreadsheets.

    If this mission resonates, subscribe, share the episode with a friend, and leave a review to help others find the show. Join our movement: follow Abolitionist Sanctuary on YouTube, Instagram, and Facebook, download our mobile app, enroll at abolitionacademy.com, and become a member at abolitionistsanctuary.org. Your voice—and your assets—matter.

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    49 min
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