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ABA on Tap is proud to brew with Dr. Holly Blais (Part 1 of 2):

A worksheet hits the desk, a student melts down, and the room labels it “escape behavior.” The Tap doesn't buy that shortcut, and neither does Dr. Holly Blais. Holly brings a rare mix of school-based behavior analysis, special education, systems consulting, and lived experience with dyslexia to ask a harder question: what are we missing when we stop at the three-term contingency and call it the full story?

ABA on Tap and Holly trace her path from being the kid who felt misunderstood and judged as lazy to becoming a paraprofessional, special educator, and BCBA who now pushes for values-driven, transdisciplinary work in schools. Along the way, she breaks down why “context” is more than a classroom label. It includes health, stress, learning history, identity, peer dynamics, instructional design, and the constant trade-offs educators face. Her art history background becomes a powerful metaphor: like a painting, behavior makes no sense if you only describe what you see without analyzing the forces that shaped it.

We also get into systems change and social impact, including her focus on prejudicial bullying and why purely collecting ABC data can miss development, language, social status, and cultural messaging. Then we tackle a tension many educators and clinicians feel: acceptance and neurodiversity affirming practice still needs challenge. Dr. Blais defines “push” using zones of proximal development plus ACT and RFT, aiming for growth without chronic stress, restraint-heavy practices, or blind compliance.

Subscribe for part two, share this with a school-based BCBA or teacher, and if this hits a nerve, leave a review and tell us: where do you see “context” getting ignored most in student behavior support?

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ABA on Tap is proud to present Chris Larson (Part 2 of 2):

Private equity didn’t just “enter” ABA, it helped build the modern autism therapy industry as we know it and that reality comes with uncomfortable questions. Mike and Dan continue the brew with Chris Larson from Behavioral Health Business for part two, and we get specific about what investment capital changed at the macro level: access, scale, hiring, payer relationships, and the growth that followed insurance mandates. Then we turn the lens toward the hidden cost of speed, especially when investors expect a three to seven year arc and clinical care requires trust, continuity, and judgment.

We talk through the ethical tension head-on. Chris breaks down why private equity firms answer to limited partners, why that mindset can clash with provider ethics, and why “McDonald’s ABA” is a real fear across the field. At the same time, we don’t let clinicians off the hook: nothing gets implemented without a BCBA green light, and the culture we teach new BCBAs can become the culture they assume is normal. That leads into workforce pipeline problems, the lack of a nursing-style university partnership model, and why the field keeps having to build its own training engine.

From there, we move into the push for an ABA standard of care and why it keeps stalling, including iCHOM efforts and newer bets like Project Align and eye tracking technology. We also unpack the Maryland RBT strike and union vote, what “living wage” means when reimbursement rates are set by payers, and why RBT turnover hurts kids, families, and providers. We close by exploring collaboration with pediatricians, the limits of “objective” measurement in behavioral healthcare, and why opioid-crisis comparisons can mislead even when incentives rhyme.

If you care about ABA therapy quality, reimbursement, RBT wages, BCBA ethics, and the future of autism services, hit play, then subscribe, share this with a colleague, and leave us a review.

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ABA on Tap is proud to present Chris Larson (Part 1 of 2):

Autism therapy sits at the intersection of healthcare, politics, and money, and that collision is getting louder. Mike and Dan talk with healthcare journalist Chris Larson from Behavioral Health Business about why ABA has become an easy target for skepticism, how federal narratives can trickle down into real-world payer behavior, and what parts of the backlash are cultural versus policy-driven.

We also get concrete about the mechanics that shape a provider’s survival. Chris explains why Medicaid acts like the pace-setting car for reimbursement and utilization rules, how state Medicaid programs can rapidly tighten oversight, and why changes like fixed fee schedules, accreditation expectations, and hour caps can reshape access. Even if you mostly serve commercial members, you still feel Medicaid and Medicare influence through benchmarks like daily limits and authorization standards.

Then we tap into the private equity debate with fewer slogans and more operations. Why did some investor-backed ABA roll-ups collapse while others kept growing? We break down thin margins, reimbursement delays, scaling problems, and the shortage of executives who truly understand the subtleties of autism therapy delivery. If you’re a BCBA, clinic leader, or founder trying to build ethical growth in a volatile market, this conversation gives you a clearer map of the terrain. Subscribe, share this with a colleague, and leave a review with your biggest question about where ABA goes next.

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