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In this captivating and wide-ranging conversation, Joey Pinz welcomes cybersecurity executive, author, and Brazilian jiu-jitsu enthusiast Caroline Wong. What begins with jiu-jitsu quickly expands into a profound dialogue about humility, body awareness, emotional regulation, and the unexpected personal growth that comes from combat sports—especially as an adult beginner.
Caroline opens up about her upcoming book on AI and cybersecurity, explaining how AI isn’t just another shift—it’s redefining the entire security landscape. She outlines how to evaluate real AI solutions, why transparency matters, and how LLMs make modern social engineering nearly indistinguishable from authentic communication.
She also reflects on tech’s wobbly job market, why global talent has reshaped the industry, and which cybersecurity markets AI will completely replace in the years ahead. The conversation deepens as Caroline shares her journey through sobriety, the discipline instilled by her Chinese immigrant parents, the challenges of raising resilient kids in a privileged world, and why joy, peace, and positive impact—not titles—define success.
🔥 Top 3 Highlights
• 🤖 How AI will erase entire segments of cybersecurity
• 🥋 What jiu-jitsu teaches about humility, resilience, and equality
• 💛 Why having a compelling “why” enables deep personal transformation

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