A blizzard outside, no safety nets inside. In this episode of No Contingencies, Liz Ryan, Parker Pemberton, and executive kill-switch controller Nicholas Worpole dig into both the housing market and what it actually takes to win in it, with powerhouse guest Brenna Kittleson

We kick things off with rapid-fire hot takes: Parker live-bets on the Fed’s rate decision, the crew debates whether Zillow should show extreme weather risk data, and they unpack sensational headlines about delistings and construction costs “deepening” the affordability crisis. Between jokes about Minnesota snow, Good Morning America, and merch budgets, they translate clickbait into what it really means for buyers and sellers on the ground.

Then the focus shifts to Brenna’s story: how she went from 20 years climbing every rung in the Verizon wireless world to closing 67+ deals in about two years in real estate. She breaks down how obsessive client care, staying top-of-mind, thinking outside the box, and refusing to call it a “slow season” built her referral machine. Parker and Liz pull out the key lessons: mission over money, heart-based service, and why there’s “more than enough to go around” if you actually do the work.

The episode wraps with a very serious company matter: the Pemberton satellite office Christmas tree decorating contest—because culture, competition, and a slightly chaotic tree in Edina all matter too.