What happens when two builders at the frontier of AI and blockchain get philosophical about code, consciousness, and creativity?

In this episode of The Quantum Podcast, Nik Heher — software architect and AI developer — joins Christopher Smith (founder of Quantus Network) for a deep, technical, and surprisingly human conversation about how AI is transforming the very act of creation.

Together they explore everything from deleting code as a spiritual practice, to vibe coding, abstraction layers, reverse engineering psychology, quantum computing, and the strange parallels between programming languages and the human mind.

A wide-ranging dialogue about learning from machines, building smarter systems, and remembering what consciousness really means in a world increasingly shaped by code.

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Christopher Smith

https://x.com/YuviLightman

Nik Heger

https://x.com/n13

Quantus Network
https://www.quantus.com/
https://t.me/quantusnetwork
https://linktr.ee/quantusnetwork

⏱️ Chapters

00:00 – Vibe coding, creativity & the AI learning curve
03:00 – Deleting code, technical debt & rewriting from scratch
06:00 – Abstraction, genius & the Polkadot ecosystem
09:00 – Teaching AI to truly read code (not just docs)
12:00 – Word cells vs shape rotators: two types of minds
15:00 – AI orchestration, no-code limits & leaking abstractions
18:00 – Reverse engineering psychology & binary art
21:00 – Hidden CPUs, fuzzing & quantum-era security
24:00 – Physics, consciousness & the observer effect
27:00 – Dreams, conditioning & mental reprogramming