🏫➡️🌍 Learning Beyond the Walls & Halls - Some of the most powerful learning doesn’t happen in classrooms.

In this episode, Mike and Logan explore what learning looks like when it’s unstructured, authentic, and rooted in real life. From curiosity-driven experiences to learning that emerges through exploration and connection, they unpack why informal environments often produce the deepest growth.

✨ Why does unstructured learning matter?
🔍 How do we recognize it when it’s happening?
🧠 How can schools, educators, and families intentionally leverage real-world learning for students?

This conversation challenges traditional assumptions about where learning happens—and invites us to rethink how we prepare students for a complex, dynamic world.

Episode 18: “The Essentials of School Leadership: Building Teams That Thrive”
In this episode of 2Gen Learning, Mike Cobb and Logan Birgenheier move from desert adventures—camel spiders and scorpions included—to the heart of what makes great schools great: strong, collaborative leadership. Mike unpacks the core principles he’s used to lead effective, mission-driven teams, while Logan offers a modern lens on communication, trust, and innovation in today’s schools. A lively, insight-filled conversation for anyone passionate about purposeful leadership and the power of people working together.

In this episode, Mike and Logan catch up after some local travels and dive into a lively conversation exploring the generational differences between Gen X and Millennials. From how they view work and communication to the way they approach travel, learning, and life, the two bring their unique perspectives and plenty of laughs.

It’s a fun and thoughtful dialogue that highlights how generational contrast can spark understanding, growth, and a fresh way of looking at the world.

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🎙️ 2-Gen Learning: Lessons Beyond the Classroom
💡 What Can the Education Industry Learn from other Industries

Welcome to the podcast that bridges generations, classrooms, and boardrooms. Each episode, we explore what education can learn from other industries — from corporate innovation 🚀 to design thinking 🎨, leadership strategies 👩‍💼, and even wellness practices 🌿.

👨‍👩‍👧 Two generations. Two perspectives. Together, we dig into stories, tools, and insights that challenge the status quo of schooling and open new pathways for preparing future leaders.

✨ Whether you’re an educator, entrepreneur, or lifelong learner, you’ll leave with fresh ideas, practical takeaways, and inspiration to reimagine learning for tomorrow.

🔑 Key themes we unpack:

• 🚀 Innovation & agility from the corporate world
• 🤝 Collaboration & leadership across generations
• 🎨 Creativity and design in education systems
• 🌍 Global trends shaping how we learn and work

🐐 And don’t miss our signature closing segment: The GOAT Questions — where we share our two-generational takes on “the greatest of all time” in everything from ideas to icons.

🎙️ Welcome to the 2Gen Learning Podcast with Mike Cobb and Logan Birgenheier!
In this episode, we dive into everything from 80s music, karaoke, and travel stories to sports, uniforms, and the world of education—and a whole lot more. With Gen X wisdom and Millennial musings, we bring energy, laughs, and a few unexpected connections along the way.

🤖 AI Meets Education – Mike Cobb (Gen X) and Logan Birgenheier (Millennial) explore how artificial intelligence is impacting teaching and learning.

📈 Emerging Trends – From adaptive learning systems to AI-driven tools, discover what’s on the horizon.

🎤 Two Perspectives, One Vision – A lively cross-generational conversation on keeping education human in an AI-powered world. Along the way, they reference resources like Epoch Ai (https://epoch.ai), research from Stanford’s Human-Centered AI (https://hai.stanford.edu), and other leading-edge resources that shed light on how schools can learn and respond to AI responsibly and effectively.

🔄 Trends, Routines, and the Rhythm of Learning

In this episode, hosts Mike Cobb (Gen X) and Logan Birgenheier (Millennial) explore how trends and routines can be powerful tools for growth in education—and how they can also become traps if we’re not intentional. Drawing from examples in daily life and the classroom, they unpack how habits shape both teaching and learning, when to lean into structure, and when to break free for innovation. Mike and Logan connect these ideas to educational practices and share strategies for staying fresh, adaptive, and inspired.

In this insightful episode of the 2Gen Learning Podcast, our two hosts, Mike Cobb (Gen Xer) and Logan Birgenheier (Millennial)—reconnect to reflect on their shared journey in education that began in Saudi Arabia and continues to evolve in dynamic ways around the world.

They explore how their generational differences often sparked new perspectives, especially when confronting the shifting landscape of learning, leadership, and technology. One host now works across U.S. campuses as a strategic consultant, while the other leads international project development and market analysis for global schools.

🎯 Key Themes Explored:

• 🧭 The Shift from School-Based Leadership to System-Level Strategy
  How stepping away from daily school life brings new insights—and challenges.
• 🤝 What We Miss Most
  The joy, chaos, and community of being on campus full-time, and how that fuels the passion for impact.
• ⚙️ The Beauty of Decision-Making
  Reflections on the fast-paced nature of leadership in schools vs. the slower, strategic tempo of consultancy.
• 🤖 Honoring the Proven While Embracing the New
  Balancing foundational educational practices with the rise of emerging technologies like AI.
• 🌍 Global Perspectives on Innovation
  What international schools are doing differently—and what we can learn from them.
• 🕰️ Then and Now: A Cross-Generational Look at Education & Culture
  In a lighthearted and nostalgic segment, the hosts compare life in the classroom and beyond—from the 1970s and 1990s to today—highlighting how generational experiences have shaped their views on learning and leadership.

  Technology in School:
  📽️ Gen X had film strips and overhead projectors
  💾 Millennials had computer labs and floppy disks
  🤖 Today’s learners are exploring AI tools, VR, and personalized apps

  Communication:
  ☎️ From landlines and handwritten notes
  💻 To instant messaging and early email
  🌍 To global collaboration on WhatsApp, Slack, and Teams

  Student Life:
  🧢 Walkmans and chalkboards
  📟 MP3 players and themed binders
  🎧 Streaming playlists and mindfulness zones

  This segment brings humor, heart, and perspective—reminding us how much has changed, and how much still connects us across generations.

Whether you're a lifelong educator, a curious futurist, or someone navigating the education sector in transition, this conversation offers inspiration, wisdom, and some well-earned laughter between friends dedicated to the future of learning.