#249 Ken Sobel (Hyperframe) — Constructing The Future

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#249 Ken Sobel (Hyperframe) — Constructing The Future

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Ken Sobel — Co-founder and CEO of Hyperframe.Ken is an engineer and repeat founder whose entrepreneurial path started early — out of college he launched a fingerprint payments company that predated Apple Pay, which he took through Y Combinator and ultimately was acquired by Visa in 2016.Ken grew up in construction though… recalling memories being in his father’s workshop as a kid — and his longstanding passion for construction coupled with his love of engineering and problem-solving has culminated in an entrepreneurial desire to rethinking of one of the most fundamental parts of construction — steel framing.Through Hyperframe, Ken has taken traditional metal framing process that’s been slow, manual, and largely unchanged for decades, and re-imagined it as a system that’s faster, safer, and far more efficient. Hyperframe’s snap-together framing system, paired with a full-stack software and manufacturing platform, is enabling construction crews all over the world to build walls dramatically faster, with less labor and less strain.What started as a conversation about reindustrialization coupled with a desire and need to massively scale his operations, Ken made the bold decision to move Hyperframe from California to Ohio, where the company is now headquartered and where they are building out their first large-scale manufacturing facility.In our conversation, we talk about Ken’s path into construction, the early insights behind Hyperframe, and what it actually takes to rebuild a physical industry from the ground up. We get into the realities of scaling a hard tech company, earning trust in construction, why he decided to move his whole company and family from California to Ohio, and why Ohio is such an advantageous place to build physical companies.So please enjoy this wide ranging conversation with Ken Sobel.00:00 — Building for Builders00:54 — Origin Story05:41 — Construction’s Realities06:35 — California to Ohio10:41 — Hard Tech Lessons20:22 — Pain Points32:17 — Innovating the Metal Framing27:11 — Gaining Trust 36:23 — Scaling Up41:47 — Real World Adoption44:08 — Hardest Lessons46:15 — Reflection49:08 — Being in Ohio52:27 — Wrap Up & Ways to Connect-----LINKS:https://www.linkedin.com/in/ken-sobelhttps://www.hyperframe.com/-----SPONSOR:Cerity PartnersCerity Partners, a full-service investment and wealth management firm serving high-net-worth individuals, entrepreneurs, and business owners, is proud to sponsor Lay of The Land. The firm has local roots in Cleveland and across Ohio, and like this podcast, Cerity Partners advisors specialize in serving the interests of local entrepreneurs and business leaders. They understand how to manage the total picture of wealth, both personal and professional. Cerity Partners has a unified team of specialists who collaborate on almost every aspect of a client’s financial life, including business ownership. The firm’s national presence means it can offer the resources and specialized knowledge of the largest institutions with the independence and service of a neighbor. The Cerity Partners Cleveland team understands the complexity that comes with wealth, and they adhere to fiduciary standards. Discover the financial lay of your land.Learn more at ceritypartners.com/NPR or call 216-464-6266.Roundstone InsuranceRoundstone Insurance is proud to sponsor Lay of The Land. Founder and CEO, Michael Schroeder, has committed full-year support for the podcast, recognizing its alignment with the company’s passion for entrepreneurship, innovation, and community leadership.Headquartered in Rocky River, Ohio, Roundstone was founded in 2005 with a vision to deliver better healthcare outcomes at a more affordable cost. To bring that vision to life, the company pioneered the group medical captive model — a self-funded health insurance solution that provides small and mid-sized businesses with greater control and significant savings.Over the past two decades, Roundstone has grown rapidly, creating nearly 200 jobs in Northeast Ohio. The company works closely with employers and benefits advisors to navigate the complexities of commercial health insurance and build custom plans that prioritize employee well-being over shareholder returns. By focusing on aligned incentives and better health outcomes, Roundstone is helping businesses save thousands in Per Employee Per Year healthcare costs. Roundstone Insurance — Built for entrepreneurs. Backed by innovation. Committed to Cleveland.Learn more at https://roundstoneinsurance.com/-----Stay up to date by signing up for Lay of The Land's weekly newsletter — sign up here: https://layoftheland.ck.page/5f0c1e28faConnect with Jeffrey Stern on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreypstern/Follow Lay of The Land on X @podlayofthelandhttps://www.jeffreys.page/

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