210. How could I have been so GULLIBLE??- Shaun Bolz, Kris Vallotton, Bethel- The Kindling Fire with Troy Mangum

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210. How could I have been so GULLIBLE??- Shaun Bolz, Kris Vallotton, Bethel- The Kindling Fire with Troy Mangum

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In last 2yrs there has been high-profile failures and church cover-ups involving Shaun Bolz, Paul Cain (KC Prophets), Kris Vallotton (Bethel), Mike Bickle (IHOP), and Bethel’s admission of wrongdoing that prioritized leaders over victims. This episode doesn’t aim to re-expose facts already well documented elsewhere (links below) Instead, I will focus on: - How I became so gullible, what psychological need and drives made me susceptible to deception and manipulation within charismatic settings. Relevant to how you too could be manipulated. - Explore Jeremiah 29 and his warning to prophecy recipients to stop encouraging “prophe-lying". We like hearing what we want they wanted to hear about ourselves and our circumstances. - Warnings re: protecting your children’s from your own naivety re: unsafe charismatic environments - Practical ways to become more discerning, with a Scripture-anchored plan to avoid future deception Note: I remain theologically charismatic, but far more cautious and “hopefully” discerning in practice today. Mike Winger expose’ on Shaun Bolz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH05S53QlY0 Bethel’s admission of guilt (re: Shaun Bolz) https://www.bethel.com/news/an-important-letter-from-bill-kris-and-dann-on-behalf-of-bethel-leadership Jack Deere -“My desire for power enablement Paul Cain’s manipulation” https://stephendeere.substack.com/p/jack-deere-my-desire-for-power-enabled Join the Kindling Fire: YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/@kindlingfire

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