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Andrew has a new cobweb-fighting machine that may or may not resemble "Big Bird's Arm." He and Hanna also discuss their anger over Grove's partnership with Amazon and their journey to find alternative stores -- and their budding friendship with a zero-waste store right here in the PNW. And Andrew keeps making the same mind-blowing discovery about suction cups again and again.

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