In this episode, Ronald and Jan talk with Idit Levine, founder and CEO of Solo.io. Idit shares how a single job interview shaped her career and how she picked Kubernetes as the winner when Docker Swarm and Mesos were still in the race.

She is refreshingly honest about service mesh, including where Istio went wrong and why she believes Ambient mode finally gets it right. Then the conversation turns to AI: why agents are stateful workloads that don't fit the classic Kubernetes model, why Solo.io built and donated kagent to the CNCF, and what that means for platform engineers.

We also discuss whether AI will replace engineers, what a young person entering IT should learn today, and Idit's warning to the community: if Kubernetes doesn't evolve for AI workloads, it risks losing relevance.

A candid conversation about vision, mistakes, and the future of cloud native.

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