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The fastest way to lose money in DeFi is to outsource understanding. We sit down with Anton, founder of Monarch, to unpack a deceptively simple question: when you deposit into a “yield” product, do you actually know what you’re exposed to, and who can change it after you click deposit?

We get concrete about Morpho lending markets, why vaults and curators can introduce hidden risk for suppliers, and how Monarch is built to offer permissionless direct access instead. Anton walks through Monarch’s Etherlink integration (Tezos EVM), what the live markets look like today, and how users can supply, track flows, and manage positions with better visibility than a single APY number on a button.

From there, we dig into the tools that matter when conditions turn chaotic: smart rebalance across markets with the same loan asset, auto vaults that let you set your own exposure caps, and the bigger idea of agents that help you monitor and de-risk instead of “manage your whole wallet.” We also get into the details most interfaces hide, especially oracle assumptions, hard-coded paths, backup oracle designs, and why RWA and private credit assets can be harder to evaluate when part of the story lives off-chain. Anton shares a monitoring tool he likes for RWAs and stablecoins and how that kind of data could plug into safer DeFi UX.

If you care about DeFi risk management, Morpho, on-chain lending, yield optimization, and the real tradeoffs behind vaults, this is a practical listen. Subscribe, share this with a friend who farms yield, and leave a review with the one risk metric you wish every app showed.