In this powerful and deeply reflective episode, Dr. Deborah sits down with John DeJarnette, a man of wisdom and faith, to talk about what it truly means to have the mindset of Christ in marriage.

Together, they unpack how humility, forgiveness, and servant leadership can transform even the most challenging seasons of marriage. John shares honest insights from his own journey—what it looks like to lead with grace, to love without pride, and to daily renew the mind through God’s Word.

You’ll hear practical steps for shifting your perspective from frustration to faith, from self-focus to selfless love, and from reacting in emotion to responding in the Spirit. This conversation will remind you that a Christ-centered mindset isn’t just about thinking differently—it’s about living differently, one surrendered moment at a time.

If you’ve ever wondered how to reflect Jesus in the way you love, lead, and communicate in marriage, this episode will encourage and equip you to do just that.

Ready to take the next step toward a Christ-centered marriage? Book your free 20-minute Heart-to-Heart Call to discover how renewing your mindset can restore peace, purpose, and intimacy in your relationship.

If you are on Spotify, here is a playlist that may inspire you to have a Christ-like mindset in shaping your marriage through Godly thinking.

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