In this episode of The Spiritual Speakeasy, Brian sits down with Brian Bogert for a deep, nuanced conversation about intent, impact, emotional safety, self-protection, and the invisible patterns that shape how we show up in the world.

As a custom mocktail is crafted at the bar, the conversation unfolds into territory most people avoid—how past pain creates armor, how performance becomes a defense mechanism, and why being “misunderstood” is often less about intention and more about behavior, energy, and nervous system responses.

Brian Bogert shares personal stories from childhood trauma, identity, masculinity, and leadership, offering a grounded perspective on what it really takes to move from knowledge to wisdom, from protection to presence, and from isolation to connection.

This episode is not about fixing yourself.
It’s about understanding what you’re protecting—and what it’s costing you.

In this episode, we explore:

• The difference between intent and impact

• Why self-protection often creates disconnection

• How nervous system patterns shape communication

• Performance as a survival strategy

• Emotional safety as the foundation for intimacy and leadership

• Why nuance matters more than platitudes

• Letting go of armor without losing strength

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