In this first episode of The Spiritual Speakeasy, Brian sits down with Jeff Grogan for a raw, honest conversation about cancer, mindset, identity, and what it means to keep building -even in the hardest seasons of life.

While undergoing chemotherapy and radiation for a second cancer diagnosis, Jeff chose not to let his circumstances define him. Instead, he built a profitable business, deepened his purpose, and re-wrote the story he was living inside.

As Brian crafts a custom cocktail inspired by Jeff’s journey, the two explore fear, faith, identity, and the power of the stories we tell ourselves—especially when life hands us something we didn’t ask for.

This episode is about resilience without spiritual bypassing, hope without denial, and choosing to live fully while you’re still here.

In this episode, we explore:

• What it means to choose meaning in the face of uncertainty
• Why mindset shapes biology, behavior, and identity
• How fear can be seductive—and how to step out of itThe difference between pain and suffering
• Why hard things can become teachers instead of stop signs
• The five life lessons Jeff learned while facing cancer and building anyway

✨ Want to take the lessons with you?
We put together a simple one-page reflection with the five lessons Jeff shares in this episode.
Download it here if you’d like a quiet reminder of what stayed with you.

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