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Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
- An Indian History of the American West
- Letto da: Grover Gardner
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"Shattering, appalling, compelling....One wonders...who indeed were the savages." ( Washington Post)
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- J.B.
- 12/04/2016
Easy to Listen To, Difficult to Hear About
Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee: An Indian History of the American West, by Dee Brown, and narrated By Grover Gardner. I first read the history in the late 1970s. I had to stop before I finished the complete paperback. Too much sorrow. But its poignancy remained in my mind these last 30 years. So it was time to go to the book again. This time on Audible.
Bury My Heart explains the North American Indians realized the white migrants to their land were far too numerous to withstand. So, as nations, they entered into treaties to provide themselves the opportunity to live in peace and preserve some of their traditional life. But the Americans treated the original natives as being less than human. Each treaty promise, and in fact any promise made was never given the slightest necessity to be upheld by the white settlers, their military or the political government. Not even flags of truce. More than once when a parley was asked for under a white flag, it was but an opportunity for the military to murder the peace seeking emissaries. The attitude was ever present that since these were mere Indians they could be lied to, detested, blamed without cause, abused; all done in the name of the superiority of the European genetics and a methodology for taking the bounty of the land from the aboriginal natives. The tragedy is only multiplied because those tribesmen from the Iroquois, to the Cherokee, to the Sioux, to the Apache, to the Arapaho and all the others were obligated in their own moral ethos to adhere to their word and expected the great white fathers/settlers to do the same.
The settler’s lack of compunction against killing a Native American, whether a warrior, a woman, a child or an elderly is now unfathomable. When a native was found they were butchered, for any or no reason at all. The truth is, according to Dee Brown, we, the European Americans, were no better then, than Isis in today’s world. Doesn’t that surprise you? Some examples: At the Battle of Sand Creek on November 29, 1864, U.S. Army Colonel John Chivington, a Methodist preacher, freemason, and opponent of slavery set out to kill any and every Indian he could find with a 700-man force of Colorado Territory militia. In the morning hours he attacked and destroyed a peaceful village of Cheyenne and Arapaho in the southeastern Colorado Territory. His direction and undertaking was to kill and should you wish mutilate, any found Indian. An estimated 70–163 Native Americans, about two-thirds of whom were women and children were murdered. The village men were off hunting. This was not a tragedy by error, it was an intended slaughter, notwithstanding a treaty between the U.S. and the nation to which the village inhabitants belonged to. The whites had a manifest destiny and that permitted not obeying their Treaty obligations. The Indians did not have the same option. In the end, they just needed to be murdered because they were “savages,” according to the Colonel. Then there was General Philip Sheridan who in the Winter Campaign of 1868–69 attacked the Cheyenne, Kiowa, and Comanche tribes in their winter quarters, taking their supplies and livestock and killing those who resisted, driving the rest back into their reservations for no other reason than they were Indians. The Indians left the reservation because the promised lands did not provide wildlife to hunt or livestock to manage, were un-farmable and in most cases the U.S. Congress never authorized funds for meeting its commitments to supply the Treaties’ obligations to the Indian nations with promised supplies. Congress promised but never authorized. When the starving Indians left the reservation to trap food, the American whites claimed a treaty violation and the right to punish the nation for its attempts in derogation of the Treaties. General Sheridan’s two famous quotes are, (1) “The only good Indians I ever saw were dead," and (2) "Let them [the railroad agents] kill, skin and sell until the buffalo is exterminated."
Should you think I have given away the tragedies in the story? Fear not. Bury My Heart has at least a dozen and a half more embarrassments to tell you about.
The Indian nations left us two moral standards which we continue with today and which have become an essential part of our ethos. A man’s word is his bond and we are all humans benefiting from our gracious earth. Because they believed in a man’s word, they succumbed to the treachery of the latter half of the 19th Century American double crossing land grabs, gold diggers, and American politicians.
At least, though, they left us the values of humanity and preservation of our earth. I finished the book this time. An easy read, yet a difficult chore.
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- Darwin8u
- 18/08/2018
I thought God intended us to live
“I thought God intended us to live,” Standing Bear told Crook, “but I was mistaken. God intends to give the country to the white people, and we are to die. It may be well; it may be well.”
- Standing Bear, quoted in Dee Brown's 'Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee'
One of the great histories of the United States. Published in 1970, Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee is a people's history; a history of those who lost, ultimately everything. From the beginning, Brown declares his intentions. He wants to tell the story of the settlement of America (specifically the West) from the point of view of the Indians. "Americans who have always looked westward when reading about this period should read this book facing eastward." Is it a perfect history? No. But did it change some of the historical narratives a generation ago? Hopefully. Did it cause some to look at our myths of the West with a bit more skepticism? Hopefully.
It was a hard book to read. I'd get through a couple chapters and have to digest it, put it down for a couple days. I live in Arizona. Several reservations are minutes from my house. Many of the spots in this book are places I've been. I was born an hour or two from where Chief Joseph's tribe ran from General Howard. My great, great grandfather was killed by remnants of Butch Cassidy's gang in North East Arizona, not far from where Geronimo and his fellow Apaches roamed. Another great, great father helped convince some Piutes in Southern Utah to murder (and ultimately for awhile, take the blame) an Arkansas wagon train). My roomate my freshman year in college was from the Navajo reservation (he is now an Air Force doctor), going to school on the Manuelito AND ROTC scholarship.
I understand the history is complex, but reading Brown opens ones eyes to the theme's that happened when an expanding America ran into America's native people. It doesn't matter if the native people were Navajo, Sioux, Cheyenne, Apache, Modoc, Kiowa, Commanche, Nez Percé, Ponca, or Ute. The same theme was played again and again (because it worked for white Americans):
1. White Americans would start invading native territorial land
2. A treaty would be signed allowing those from a certain tribe to keep a certain amount of land, in exchange for food or provisions
3. Some of the tribe would sign (because of greed or threats).
4. Food wouldn't be given, or would be stolen, and the land boundaries would not be respected.
5. Gold, minerals, farmable land, etc., would be coveted by miners, farmers, or the US Government and treaties wouldn't be respected.
6. The treaty would again me disrespected.
7. The tribe would be provoked, often slaughtered.
8. Indians would respond.
9. The Army would come in and slaughter more.
10. Tribes would be moved from their land, to disagreeable land somewhere distant.
11. Members of the tribe would die from illness.
12. Leaders of the tribe would become disgruntaled because of mistreatment, lies, and poor conditions.
13. Leaders would be imprissioned or assassinated.
Rinse and repeat. Again and again.
Again, history is complex. Many of the actors I respected from Civil War history had a horrible relationship with Native Americans. There were a few men in this book that indeed were heroic. White men occasionally acted with dignity towards Native Americans. But the exceptions were VERY exceptional. Often, we treated the American Indian as something to be removed, destroyed, cheated, profited off, and mostly ignored.
I think some things have changed, but then I see how we treated the Navajo Nation, Hopi, Ute Mountain Ute, Ute Indian Tribe of the Uintah and Ouray Reservation, and the Pueblo of Zuni in regards to Bears Ears earlier late last year (motivation? mining). I think of how we treated the Hunkpapa Lakota, Sihasapa Lakota and Yanktonai Dakota in regards to Standing Rock early in 2017 (motivation? oil). I think not much has changed. We now don't destroy Native Americans with guns. We either ignore them, dilute them, or just continue to take more and more.
Having come from a military family of helicopter pilots and calvary officers, I've always found it ironic how the Army now mythologizes the American Indian. From slogans like "Hoka hey!" (usually misattributed to Crazy Horse, but actually uttered by Low Dog). "It's a good day to fight. It's a good day to die." Just counting the helicopters my brother and father-in-law flew, there are Apaches, Blackhawks, Kiowas, etc. Many live and train on bases that were formerly used to fight or house captured Native Americans. It is a weird reverence/respect for an "enemy" the US Army nearly exterminated in the late 1800s. It is odd. The easiest expanation for me is we reverence (in certain areas) the American Indian, so we don't have to feel guilt for our Nation's treatment of and our Nation's responsibilty for what we did to the various tribes of Native Americans.
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- Jonnie
- 02/05/2010
History from a Native perspective
I've read this book twice so when I saw it in Audible I jumped at it. It did not disappoint for my third go around. Very engaging yet sad as to how we treated the Native peoples.
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- Reggie
- 17/08/2012
A wrenching introduction to this history.
Would you consider the audio edition of Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee to be better than the print version?
Having never read the print version, I couldn't say.
How would you have changed the story to make it more enjoyable?
I wouldn't change anything.
What does Grover Gardner bring to the story that you wouldn’t experience if you just read the book?
It's a compassionate and sympathetic reading. Like all audiobooks it can really express that 3rd or 1st person narrative in a way that reading print does not. There's less projection of the reader into the text.
Did you have an extreme reaction to this book? Did it make you laugh or cry?
I did not have an extreme reaction.
Any additional comments?
If a person is unfamiliar with the history of Native Americans and their relationship with the first generations of European settlers, this book is an absolute must-read. It is a history of peoples and societies utterly rent from lands lived upon for thousands of years, by a wholly alien invasion. It is sympathetic to aboriginal Americans, but certainly not unfair to the Europeans whose ingress unto the American continent meant the end of an epoch.
Those familiar with the history of Native American and early Europeans may find this book dated, and overly simplistic. Much progress has been made in telling the story of Native Americans since Brown published this book in 1970, but this criticism is really the ultimate compliment to an author and book that set a standard for examining US history with deep scrutiny, while challenging readers and fellow historians to dig deeper. In subsequent years, the body of literature about these topics has expanded exponentially and some of Browns most controversial theses are now accepted wildly, if not universally, but those who engage regularly with the problem of US History.
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- steve
- 12/11/2012
So Sad
Great book, even better book for those who enjoy learning about American history and even better for those who are interested in learning about how the Natives were raped, slaughtered and had their land stolen from them. I especially enjoyed how each chapter began with a brief time line of what was going on in terms of history and curent events during those specific years that the book is discussing. Excellent narrator too! He did a great job in reading this book and captivated the listener. There was so much great information in this book, I will definitely need to listen to it again just to try to digest everything.
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- Rich
- 30/07/2012
A classic in every sense of the word...
Dee Brown has written some other quality books, but he would deserve a reputation as one of the more readable historians on America's 19th century even if he had never written another word. A true classic, the perspective of which was long overdue when it appeared, this book was as moving for me this year - expertly narrated by Grover Gardner - as it was years ago when I first read it for myself. The shameful treatment of native-American tribes by officials of the federal government at the highest levels, and by the military, should be impossible for any decent person to defend - if considered from the native side. No one has ever presented that side as well as Brown. His research is wide-ranging and his writing is effective. This book is a true paradigm-shifter. No one with an interest in U.S. history should fail to read or hear it.
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- Che Denine
- 19/03/2012
Great factual account, albeit a bit repetitive
Where does Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee rank among all the audiobooks you???ve listened to so far?
Top 10%
What was one of the most memorable moments of Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee?
Black Kettle's forthright position, and his subsequent betrayal.
Any additional comments?
The book is a fine work. Although it feels like repetition in the accounts of the U.S. Army massacres, I suppose there is no other way to drive the point home in a brutally frank manner - the repetition in the book exists because the repetition in history exists - the
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- Amazon Customer
- 27/11/2009
Could not finish this book
I loved the book "A Sorrow in our Heart - the life of Tecumseh". I thought that this would be similar, but the systematic killing of the Indian people with a complete lack of understanding of their way of life made me ill. It reminded me more of "Shake Hands with the Devil" - the story of the atrocities perpetrated in Rwanda.
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- Bobbijo
- 05/11/2012
Many nights sleep lost due to great book
What made the experience of listening to Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee the most enjoyable?
40 years after being written, it is still very relavant, and helpful to gain a historical perspective that is not commonly discussed in the mainstream. The book was well written, well read, and very specific, rather than having a pan-American Indian style of generalizing.
Who was your favorite character and why?
This book is full of many real life heroes, why pick only one.
Which character – as performed by Grover Gardner – was your favorite?
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Was there a moment in the book that particularly moved you?
Many.
Any additional comments?
I have had this book on my wish list of reads for years, and even bought a couple copies but never got around to it (as I don't have much time to sit down and read), but thanks to it being available on audiobook, I have finally listened to it, and was not dissapointed at all. I lost many nights sleep due to not being able to "put it down" (what is the listening version to that term?). I have no doubt that I will re-read/listen to this book a few more times in my life.
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- Marcelo
- 17/01/2011
It's a sad, well written story.
It's the same cycle over and over again. So sad...
Very good book, I recommend it.
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- Nik Jewell
- 15/03/2017
'The Only Good Indians I Ever Saw Were Dead'
Even though, 40 years after this book was first published, we are now familiar with the events that took place in the American mid-West in the nineteenth century, listening to this was both shocking and saddening.
It is one long tale of continually broken treaties, of moving the native Americans out of their homelands to poor land, and then on to even worse land, again and again, where they would be unable to sustain themselves and become dependent on government handouts from corrupt agents. Any who didn't want to move would just be annihilated without compunction or conscience. There were a few brave stands by the native Americans along the ways, temporary victories, but these just proved to be short lived stays of execution.
Dee Brown's telling of the tale is well-researched, beautifully written and the narration by Grover Gardener is excellent. Despite the anger and sadness that the book provokes I found it compelling and hard to stop listening.
I note amongst the reviews by our American cousins that some readers seem genuinely surprised by learning of these events in their country's past but then I guess that I didn't learn much about the sordid history and atrocities in Britain's colonial past when I was at school either.
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- Cliff
- 06/05/2012
Beautiful inspiring history
Beautiful book read very well. Full of irony and pathos. The famous names jump out to inject life into the words whilst the reminder of so many thousands of anonymous brave men and women who were simply trying to live their lives in their country!
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- Ciaran
- 01/11/2013
What an awesome story
Where does Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee rank among all the audiobooks you’ve listened to so far?
This is probably the best book I've read this year and I'm now searching to know more about the history of the native Indian Americans.
What did you like best about this story?
The book knitted together many different parts of the varied history of the push west, the treaties, the broken treaties, the bloodshed, the desire for peace and living together which never truly appeared until the Indian was virtually wiped off the map.
What does Grover Gardner bring to the story that you wouldn’t experience if you had only read the book?
Grover Gadrner's reading was very effective and told a story rather than just read the book. It made for really good listening.
Was there a moment in the book that particularly moved you?
I couldn't listen to the book for more than an hour at a time it was so dreadfully sad but it fully engaged me each time and I wanted to listen to more, I didn't want the story to end. One of the sadest parts of the story was when soldiers hanged 38 Indians in one execution and they went to their deaths as if horrible and early death was an expected part of their lives. How horrible that we let this happen because of our greed.
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- Cliff
- 23/01/2013
I learned so much
Great yarn with lots of nuggets of interesting information. Loved the narrator too. Whilst it was great entertainment I found it very educational too.
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- Mark h
- 05/01/2015
How greed killed a peoples
Amazing story from the true Americans. How through "rascally" ways white settlers and successive government ignored treaties and broke promises to steal Indian land and lives. To hear the voices of those Indians who's names have become legends as evil savages and how they where in fact great leaders pushed to extremes.
I could not stop listening to this book and spent long nights listening to it.
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- John Zippo
- 22/12/2016
Awesome
The united states treatment of its indigenous people....surely must rate as the most grevious crime in all of humanity
This book...beautifully read incidently...will make your heart weep.
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- colin monteith
- 23/09/2018
The Sad Path to Wounded Knee
A gripping and harrowing telling of man's inhumanity during the theft of tribal lands from native Americans. We must remember this.
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- Marcus
- 23/06/2018
Genocide, betrayal, extortion, theft, deceit & bigotry
Possibly the saddest history I’ve ever read. Shockingly frank, it tells the story of a noble people, outgunned, overwhelmed and mistreated. The settlers rapacious greed and sense of entitlement is ugly beyond belief. The government and their agents behaved despicably. The Native Americans innocence, trusting nature and ability to forgive shames so called Christian invaders
A pitiful tale, painful to hear but an important work that is well worth reading. Highly recommended
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- Cliff Moyce
- 26/03/2021
Harrowing but important
This book has the ability to outrage, horrify and instil guilt.
The near extermination of native Americans was truly a genocide (an over-used and much misused term these days - but not, I think this time). It was every bit as disgusting as those perpetrated by the Spanish in central and South America. Evidence for it being a genocide is that every opportunity was taken to kill the women, children and babies of the native tribes, not just the ‘warriors’ (most of whom only wanted peace, so were not really warriors in a true sense). The fact that American government soldiers delighted in raping and mutilating the women and children before and after killing them is deeply depressing. What was it about the white settlers that allowed them to do this without conscience?
A great reading from Grover Gardener.
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- Mister Peridot
- 29/09/2014
Sad, sad story
The litany of Indian names give haunting beauty to this sad and illuminating story of their demise. Something everyone especially the Americans should know about.
Probably best not to read this book at a time when you need cheering up.
The author often quotes what the Indians said in conference with the US officials. But also what they said to one another, when no stenographer would have been present. So as a piece of history it would have been interesting to know more about the sources the author drew upon.
Similarly, more about the politics between the Indians would be interesting to know. They weren't always on good terms with each other, to put it mildly.
But I guess these are subjects for a different book.
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