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Perfectionism can keep women stuck in all-or-nothing thinking, says habit coach Monica Packer, who joins Alex Howard and Amanda Silver to talk about choosing progress over perfection. Monica, host of the About Progress podcast, shares how perfectionism showed up in her own marriage and parenting, and why she says putting yourself on the list matters more than putting yourself first. She also explains why she believes most habit advice was built around men's lives, how starting with a smaller baseline version of a habit can help it stick, and why she says missing the ideal on day 20 is not failing. Alex and Amanda also talk with her about invisible labor and the mental load, and how that pressure can build resentment in a relationship before a divorce. They also talk about her book, Sticky Habits, which she says helps women build habits that fit their time, energy and support.

(00:00) Monica's Breaking Point
(02:29) The All or Nothing Swing
(10:42) Putting Yourself on the List
(12:57) The List of 30 Things
(17:54) Marriage and Parenting
(26:06) Why Habit Advice Misses Women
(40:17) Invisible Labor and Divorce
(49:36) Build a Habit on Day One

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