New York City Ballet Legend -advice to dance moms and their dancers

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All the guests who grace this podcast with their presence are absolutely amazing! How I wish this podcast existed when my dancer was just starting out as a serious dancer (flashback 10 years...ahhhh), and this podcast existed for ME to help support her as a whole person. Today is no different, AND we elevate this episode with a true legend -Zippora Karz. Dance Moms: honestly, this episode is another must-listen if you have a serious dancer! I sit down with former New York City Ballet soloist Zippora Karz, who trained at Balanchine’s school while he was still alive and has some GOLD wisdom to share with the new generation of dancers and their dance moms! Zippora didn’t even know you could dance for a living. She grew up in the San Fernando Valley in the 1970s, fell in love with the work in her teacher Sheila’s studio, and at 15 was asked to stay in New York as a winter student. Her first thought? “I’m only 15. Are they crazy?” She went anyway, with one month to prepare and no winter coat. By her second year in the company she was dancing the Sugar Plum Fairy. Then at 21, she was diagnosed with diabetes (and misdiagnosed at first). For about 10 years she bounced between opinions, diets, and insulin doses, sitting on the side night after night watching younger dancers take the roles she once danced. She almost quit, every single day. Instead, she made a pact with herself to give the right approach a real chance. She started feeling better, her roles came back, and in time she was promoted to soloist. Today she teaches at the Colburn School and stages Balanchine ballets as a répétiteur for the George Balanchine Trust. And what she tells her own students might surprise you: there’s no need to go too early. We also talked about perfectionism, giving our power away as dance parents (guilty!), what to do when your dancer is in the wrong environment, and why it might be time to fit the world around the child instead of fitting the child into the dance world. This episode answers: Should your dancer leave home for a year-round program at 12, 14, or 15?What happens if the path doesn’t go the way your dancer planned?How do you speak up to a teacher or director without starting a fight?What if the only serious ballet training in your town isn’t a healthy environment?How can you support an 11-year-old who says she wants to dance forever? Inside this episode (00:00) Meet Zippora Karz, author of The Sugarless Plum(00:52) A family of dancers: Vaudeville, Juilliard, and the San Fernando Valley(02:17) Sheila, the teacher with flat feet who caught Balanchine’s eye(04:22) “You have to love the process”(05:12) Why the structure of the studio can be life-giving for kids(07:11) Leaving for New York at 15: “I’m only 15. Are they crazy?”(12:05) Seeing New York City Ballet: “You can do this for a living?”(14:27) Why Zippora tells her students there’s no need to go too early (and why she loves college programs)(16:33) Her friend who quit, went to Yale, and is still performing in her mid-60s(17:49) Chasing the YAGP trophy, and why there’s only one childhood(20:05) The diagnosis at 21, and the misdiagnosis that came first(22:58) “Just tell me what to do”: 10 years of everyone’s opinion(24:28) Almost quitting, every day, and what journaling showed her(27:27) Feeling better, roles coming back, and the promotion to soloist(28:17) Perfectionism, and accepting a new potential(29:58) It won’t be a perfect performance. Is she willing to let that be?(30:46) The perfection carrot, and how corrections land for dancers(34:48) Giving our power away to studios, providers, and the dance world(37:37) Powerlessness, and finding healthy control(40:01) Anger is healthy, and the “When you did this, it made me feel” script(42:20) “I’d be dead without insulin”: medicine plus whole-human support(44:07) Private lessons and mentorship, without the pressure(45:53) What if your dancer is in the wrong environment?(49:10) We can’t save our kids from every hard experience(50:42) Three ways to support a young dancer who wants to dance forever(51:57) Why her mom couldn’t win after a performance (sound familiar?)(54:52) When they can’t get to class: other movement, school dance programs, and many styles(57:52) Full circle: it was never about “making it,” it was the magic(58:54) When a dancer’s health is in question: take care of you first, then work dance into it(01:00:28) Fitting the world around the child first(01:01:53) Zippora’s final word: more colt than Thoroughbred, and it’s okay to fall down(01:04:23) Sitting out injured? Keep them moving in other ways(01:05:30) Baryshnikov on stage, and “I get to be here”(01:06:26) Where to find Zippora, and bringing a Balanchine ballet to your studio Takeaways No need to rush. With good training where you live and a family your dancer is happy with, Zippora sees no reason to send her away young. Companies take dancers a little older now, and ...

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