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What does it take to help someone run 200 miles when you're not the one racing? Konrad Korth joins me to pull back the curtain on the often-overlooked role of an ultramarathon pacer. He's spent hundreds of miles pacing his brother, Killian Korth, including during his record-breaking performances at Moab 240, Bigfoot 200, and Tahoe 200.

We get into why pacing requires training for nearly double the distance, the pressure of being responsible for someone else's race, and what happens when you're struggling but can't let your runner know. Konrad also shares stories from his time training Navy SEAL candidates, his family's wild outdoor adventures, and the unexpected challenges of navigating remote trails, managing aid stations, and surviving the middle of the night.

It's a funny, fascinating look at the people who help ultrarunners reach the finish line and the kind of mindset it takes to keep moving when everything gets hard.

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