Most of what's happening in immigration right now isn't showing up in the headlines. In our first full episode, we sit down with two women who've spent decades in the trenches of immigration law: Heather Cruz, owner of Sivaraman Immigration Law, and Meghan Deutsch-Blanco — one focused on employment-based work with universities, medical practices, and rural schools, the other on families, humanitarian cases, and citizenship.

Together they walk us through the story you're not being told — the Ukrainians whose work permits aren't being renewed, the Venezuelans losing Temporary Protected Status, the surprise $100,000 H-1B fee, and what happens when the people who came here "the right way" wake up to find the rules changed overnight.

Get comfortable, take your shoes off, criss-cross applesauce, and let's get into it.

Guests Meghan-Deutsch Blanco (deutschblancolaw.com) and Heather Crews (sivaramanlaw.com) counsel individuals and businesses from around the world in immigration law cases.

Legal Magnolias is a podcast from Magnolia Legal in Durham, North Carolina — hosted by Sonya Linton and Maggie Davis.

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