Most people meet Neurogenic Tremoring through trauma work. This conversation asks a different question: what if kids learned it first — as a built-in resilience skill, before the world ever tells them something is wrong?

In this episode, Alex sits down with three women working at the frontier of that idea — Vera Live, Špela Potočnik, and Katja Jarc — to trace how Neurogenic Tremoring is being reframed for youth: why nervous system regulation has been “kept behind the clinical wall”; how Vera co-developed the book Dynamic Superpower: Inner Strength for Kids & Teens with TRE® creator Dr. David Berceli; and how Špela and Katja piloted a school curriculum in Slovenia where five to seven minutes of guided tremoring, twice a week, began changing how teenage students slept, focused, and felt in their own bodies. Along the way: the science stations that teach kids about the vagus nerve and interoception, why a safe relationship matters more than a perfect protocol, and how the body becomes a friend rather than a problem to fix.

Vera Live co-founded Dynamic Superpower with Dr. David Berceli to bring the body’s natural tremoring reflex to kids and teens as a proactive resilience tool, not a clinical intervention. A PE teacher, yoga trainer, and certified TRE® provider, she works to equip the adults in children’s lives to pass on nervous system training safely. Find the work at https://www.reflexomobility.org

Špela Potočnik is a Slovenian youth counselor, social pedagogue, and school counselor with nearly 20 years in schools, a certified TRE® provider, and one of two pilot developers behind the Slovenia study. She collaborates with the Intigrum Institute and advocates for burnout prevention in schools.

Katja Jarc is a primary school teacher, marriage and family therapist, gestalt counselor, arts therapies specialist, and certified TRE® provider — the second Slovenia pilot developer. Through her practice, Manus Katja Jarc, she has integrated body-oriented and dance-movement work for over 13 years, and co-led the 2024 “TRE with Kids” training in Amsterdam with Vera.

⏱ KEY HIGHLIGHTS

• 0:00 Welcome & introductions
• 6:04 The problem: regulation “kept behind the clinical wall”
• 6:42 Giving youth agency: “the body is really your best friend”
• 8:28 How the name “dynamic superpower” came to be
• 10:07 Špela on test anxiety, panic attacks, and the missing body piece
• 14:23 Adapting tremoring for kids — toys, play, and safety
• 15:52 The book as a manual, not just a story
• 20:20 Science stations: three brains, the vagus nerve, interoception
• 22:17 A 10-year-old reads it cold — and tremors on their own
• 25:51 A mother, a doctor, and her daughter’s aha moment
• 28:53 Lifting the stigma: “this is your power”
• 33:53 Inside the Slovenia pilot: how it began
• 35:20 Five to seven minutes, twice a week
• 43:14 Špela’s surprise: how little tremoring is enough 4
• 5:10 The real key — a safe relationship
• 50:01 What’s next: educational programs & specialized guides
• 57:14 Closing reflections: “pay attention, become astonished”

🔗 RESOURCES & LINKS

Connect with the guests — Reflexive Mobility Academy (Vera Live): https://www.reflexomobility.org · Špela Potočnik: https://www.mojesledi.com · Katja Jarc: practice MANUS. The Slovenia pilot and the family’s TRE® videos with Dr. Berceli are linked in the internal notes below.

Also mentioned: Dr. David Berceli (creator of TRE®), Linnea Gillen, Dr. Lisa Glenk, the Intigrum Institute, and the International Baccalaureate framework.

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