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Why Real Change Starts with a Conversation (and Maybe a Beer) w/ Clint Garman

Why Real Change Starts with a Conversation (and Maybe a Beer) w/ Clint Garman

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What does it really look like to live a life of service?


In this episode of Chasing Joy, we sit down with Clint Garman—former Santa Paula mayor, business owner, pastor, and now leader at the Rescue Mission Alliance—to explore a life shaped by reinvention, relationships, and a deep commitment to helping others.


From opening a restaurant to revitalize a struggling downtown… to navigating the realities of local government… to working directly with people facing homelessness, addiction, and trauma—Clint shares what he’s learned about leadership, empathy, and the human experience.


This conversation dives into:

  • Why hospitality and leadership are more connected than you think
  • The biggest misconceptions about being a mayor
  • How real change happens at the local level
  • What it means to “suspend judgment and get curious” about people
  • How proximity to suffering reshapes your perspective on humanity
  • Why relationships—not systems—are often the key to impact


At its core, this episode is about growth—learning from mistakes, letting go of ego, and choosing to show up for others with compassion.

Because behind every person is a story… and sometimes, all it takes is a conversation to start changing it.


Find out more about Clint's work with Rescue Mission Alliance at www.erescuemission.org

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