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In this episode of The Real Mom Hub, we sit down with Jill Woller — adoptive mom of two, former IVF patient, foster mom, and woman who has walked through more plot twists on her road to motherhood than most. And the end result? So worth it.

We talk about adoption, anxiety, ADHD diagnoses (for her and her kids), ambition after kids, and what happens when you stop being afraid of hard things.

If you’re navigating infertility, considering adoption, managing anxiety, or quietly reinventing yourself in motherhood — this one will steady you.

Main Topics & Discussion

When the Plan Falls Apart

Jill takes us inside her difficult IVF journey. The surreal moment of being chosen by her daughter’s birth mother. Adoption matching, failed placements, and the emotional whiplash of preparing a nursery… and getting a different phone call than the one you expected.

We also dive into the legal and financial realities of domestic adoption, failed matches, and the over $100,000 lost across two heartbreaks. This is an honest look at modern adoption in America — the hope, the bureaucracy, the hard parts, and the miracle. She doesn't sugarcoat the difficulties; instead showing us just how worth it the end result is.

For moms exploring adoption or walking through infertility grief, Jill offers grounded encouragement: educate yourself, prepare for uncertainty, and remember that love can coexist with loss.

The Mental Load No One Sees

After the babies came, the anxiety did too. We unpack therapy, medication, undiagnosed ADHD, and the quiet reality many high-functioning moms live with. If you’ve ever thought, “Why does this feel harder for me than everyone else?” — you're likely in good company.

Motherhood as Refinement

Out of financial pressure came a side hustle. Out of hustle came a marketing career. Out of loss came clarity. Jill talks about difficult chapters as fuel, why fear shrinks when you face it, and how motherhood reorganizes your ambition.

This episode is for the growth-oriented mom who knows the hard chapters are shaping her… even when she can’t see the ending yet.

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Host & Show Info

Hosted by: Cally & Emily O’Leary

About the Hosts: We’re real moms and real sisters. We may look and sound alike, but our motherhood journeys are uniquely ours. We all do Motherhood differently, and thank goodness for that. Let’s learn and grow together.

Podcast Website: https://therealmomhub.com/

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