What if God’s love isn’t just “out there somewhere,” but flowing through every part of creation—even in people we struggle to welcome? In this episode of Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast, Rev. Hannah and Rev. Brittany continue their series The Unexpected Divine, turning to John 1:3-4 to explore how life and light are woven into all creation.

Through Scripture, lived experience, and historical context, the female pastors of First United Methodist Church of San Diego reflect on what it means to recognize the Divine spark in every person – across disagreement, polarization, culture, and belief.

This conversation invites us to rethink how we see God, one another, and ourselves … especially in today’s divided world. In this episode, you’ll hear reflections on:

• The Divine spark (or sparkle!) present in every human
• John’s Gospel as a unifying vision across cultures and traditions
• How polarization clouds our ability to see God in one another
• Why kindness, presence, and even a simple smile can be sacred acts
• The radical Gospel claim that everyone is equal before God

Continue the conversation with these reflection questions:

1. Have you ever encountered God through a conversation you were avoiding or a person you had written off?
2. How has an unexpected relationship changed your understanding of love, grace, or truth?
3. Where do you see life and light breaking through in places the world has written off?

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