Ep. 218 (Part 2 of 2) | In Part 2 of the 17th dialogue in the A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series, Hameed Ali explores the great freedom we experience when we allow being itself to unfold through us—when we let reality take its course without our egoic selves getting in the way. When we are out of the way, Hameed explains, all the virtues come through us: responsibility, ethics, morality, compassion, caring, sensitivity, and more. These ideals are not human-made, he says, they are expressions of our true nature. In fact, Hameed adds, this is what a true human is; expressing the absolute is the fulfillment of life.

Just knowing the absolute does not eliminate all obstacles, Hameed continues. Even as we go very deep, there are “ego islands” that pose ongoing difficulties. But the practice is to be with our experience and let it inform us—allow our life experiences to become the arena for the expression of spirit. All we need to do is abide in the knowing that the absolute is expressing itself through us, Hameed says. And laughs telling a story about the “do nothing” instructions of lamas and Zen teachers, as they attempt to show their students that there is nothing to be done but get out of the way. All manifestation, our lives, even our problems and challenges and getting lost in the illusion is all a play of the absolute, Roger reflects. Another very rich, deeply nourishing conversation with A. H. Almaas. Recorded November 13, 2025.

“If we become mature enough to cease and desist, to let reality take its course… when we’re out of the way, true nature will come through—that’s what a true human is.”

1. Is there such a thing as a false descent? (00:33)
2. Most of the time, a realization of the absolute is incomplete—there are still some issues that haven’t been worked out (01:43)
3. Hameed’s teachings expanded as his experience expanded (04:22)
4. Even a spiritual teacher with an incomplete realization can be helpful; what causes trouble is when teachers don’t acknowledge their knowing is limited (07:26)
5. All we need to do is abide in the knowing that the absolute is expressing itself through us (12:25)
6. The practice is to be with our experience; the ego gets in the way by trying to take over (15:00)
7. The great freedom of allowing reality to take its course: the do nothing meditation (18:02)
8. Our life is fulfilled when we’re acting at the behest of the absolute (23:10)
9. Even as we know the absolute, there is always more to be free from (24:17)
10. The central issue of descent is letting go of all identification—of our ego, even of the absolute (28:41)
11. Reality is such an interesting thing—even ignorance is an interesting thing (31:57)
12. True nature is indestructible, incorruptible—at bottom it is...